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Dedicated to tracking, coordinating, and discussing trail maintenance activities in the PNW. Idea is to create a single clearinghouse to help get the word out about the different trail work projects and weekend crews so people can get involved in maintaining and improving their favorite riding areas. Washington was chosen to give a geographic center, but area of interest is PNW.

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  2. Just posted on facebook by John ATTENTION, All members attending SATURDAY's Jan 18th work party: Saturday is a NO-GO due to bad weather!!! It's still snowing out there. Hoping tomorrows warmer rain melts everything SUNDAY IS A GO! meet at 2400 gate Lake Trask Road SUNDAY at 8:30am proceed to the pipeline crossing Let your friends know about the schedule change, please share John
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    General Announcements: Minor changes planned for these meetings. Location: Every other month (January, March, May, July, September) will be held in the East Public Meeting Room of the Robert Drewel Building, 3000 Rockefeller Ave, Everett from 7:00 – 9:00 PM. The months in between (February, April, June, August, October) will rotate the meeting location to different locations that may include but not be limited to Monroe, Snohomish, Sultan, Mill Creek, Startup. No meetings will occur in November or December. Discussion Topics: Each meeting DNR plans to have a more thorough presentation regarding topics that govern how DNR operates. January and February meetings will have brainstorming opportunities for the public to suggest topics that interest them. Non-Motorized: DNR staff met with State Parks staff and agreed on projects for the 21-23 grant cycle. Multi-purpose trail with downhill mt bike option west of the State Park. Trail reroutes – circumvent new/expanding beaver pond near Wallace Lake; new trail adjacent to current mainline road that will be abandoned with the Brushcrasher timber sale. Started SEPA for trails west of Wallace Falls State Park. Expect to open for public comment sometime in March/April. Met with Evergreen Mountain Bike Alliance on maintaining trails using an RCO grant they received to help. Motorized Updates: Motorized Parking Lot Update: Continue to work with PACE Engineers to acquire Land Disturbance Activities Permit from Snohomish County. Anticipate being shovel ready by July 2020. Looking to coordinate with the Northwest Motorcycle Association (NMA) and the Washington Off Highway Vehicle Alliance (WHOVA) to get help maintaining the ORV trails in Reiter since they received RCO grants too.
  4. Reiter has a lot of history to it. It was once world-class, having hosted international trials events and tons of races like the 24-hour Buttstomper and the season opening races. Then...well, it was taken away from us. Closed to all motorized access for a while. I don't have all the history because I moved to Washington in 2011 and only really started riding here several years later. Suffice to say, it's a sore topic and the 2-wheel community feels like it got screwed...because it did. But how to move forward? We've been lied to in the past about the DNR and various agencies wanting inputs, but maybe this time (January 2020) is different. I don't think we can ignore it. I hate to be forced to work inside the arbitrary box that the various requirements and parameters puts us in, but the alternative is 7 miles of shitty gravel walking trails and nothing worth riding up there if you're anything but a complete novice. Maybe this is an opportunity? It all starts with speaking up. First focus meeting of the year with DNR is Wednesday January 22nd at 7pm in Everett. Recent update on WA DNR meetings for Reiter: General Announcements: Minor changes planned for these meetings. Location: Every other month (January, March, May, July, September) will be held in the East Public Meeting Room of the Robert Drewel Building, 3000 Rockefeller Ave, Everett from 7:00 – 9:00 PM. The months in between (February, April, June, August, October) will rotate the meeting location to different locations that may include but not be limited to Monroe, Snohomish, Sultan, Mill Creek, Startup. No meetings will occur in November or December. Discussion Topics: Each meeting DNR plans to have a more thorough presentation regarding topics that govern how DNR operates. January and February meetings will have brainstorming opportunities for the public to suggest topics that interest them. Non-Motorized: DNR staff met with State Parks staff and agreed on projects for the 21-23 grant cycle. Multi-purpose trail with downhill mt bike option west of the State Park. Trail reroutes – circumvent new/expanding beaver pond near Wallace Lake; new trail adjacent to current mainline road that will be abandoned with the Brushcrasher timber sale. Started SEPA for trails west of Wallace Falls State Park. Expect to open for public comment sometime in March/April. Met with Evergreen Mountain Bike Alliance on maintaining trails using an RCO grant they received to help. Motorized Updates: Motorized Parking Lot Update: Continue to work with PACE Engineers to acquire Land Disturbance Activities Permit from Snohomish County. Anticipate being shovel ready by July 2020. Looking to coordinate with the Northwest Motorcycle Association (NMA) and the Washington Off Highway Vehicle Alliance (WHOVA) to get help maintaining the ORV trails in Reiter since they received RCO grants too.
  5. WHAT: Gifford Pinchot planning meeting 2020 WHO: @Leftdagrid WHEN: 6pm, January 23rd WHERE: Hawaiian Style Grill, 5000 E 4th Plain Blvd A106, Vancouver, WA 98661 WHY: Looking for stake holders support and feedback for GPNF work in 2020. Please PM Leftdagrid with your name and phone if you will be attending.
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    Discussion here: https://thumpertalk.com/forums/topic/1318773-reiter-foothills-public-forum/
  7. I updated the description! Mark your calendars! PNW Dirt Talk trail party 25 January at Tahuya. Meet at Elfendahl Pass Trailhead 8AM; riders meeting and then moving by 8:30. That gives us enough daylight to work a few hours and then get a rip in to enjoy the fruits of our labor! Coordination is ongoing, but DNR and NMA are already tracking, as are River City MC, Bremerton Cruisers MC, and Tacoma MC. If the timing works out, we could have the NMA Heavy Maintenance Crew with the ST240 single track excavator out there for people to get a look at and get excited about. Still trying to see if that can happen. This will primarily be a drive and walk work party, though we'll wrap up with lunch so you can get a few hours of riding in. Target location is going to be south across Hurd Rd. We'll have keys. Wear comfortable work/walk clothes and dress for the weather of course! Suggested tools are trimmers, loppers, trail rakes, and a few pulaskis. I'll personally have a chainsaw, 2 sets of gas trimmers, folding saw, machetes, Macleods, a Max Axe toolset, and 3 semi-feral children to throw at the trails. Oh, and I'll have a grill. River City MC is going to provide lunch! So if you're coming, please sign up and please reach out so I can get a rough tally for grocery shopping the day before! As always, I'm very much open to suggestions on locations and organizations to work with on the PNW Dirt Talk "trail program" or whatever we're calling it. One a month, the more new places the better. Right now low land riding in WA is almost certainly limited to Walker Valley, Tahuya, and Green Mountain for the public stuff and Shelton Dirt Rider for private. What else have ya got? If you feel like taking the lead or co-lead of any future event, I'd love to share the responsibility and the work...and your energy!
  8. The fallowing was posted on the SDR members only website I asked John if i could post this here and he said "Yes please" I've changed work PARTY requirements You Only need to help brush trails TEN (10) hours in a whole year AND you can bring a friend that would be a prospective GOOD Member to help out in the morning and can they ride with you for FREE that afternoon, just for helping brush trails OR CLEANing Forest or Timberlands If you are too busy to help us brush trails REMEMBER: THE TRAILS WE RIDE ARE THE TRAILS WE BRUSH you can make a $100 donation to help purchase equipment and food for the workers and just go ride that ten hours... But you'll be missing out on some FUN and making new Friends and some good food. 2020's first work PARTY is this Saturday and Sunday January 18 and 19 behind the 2400 gate off Lake Trask Road Gate OPENs at 8:15AM Show up 8:30 to 8:45 9AM safety briefing and break up into teams Sign out power and hand equipment, hardhats, safety glasses, hearing protection, gloves Parking lot number 2 currently has animals lined up boarding an ARK floating in the middle of the lot so... Proceed west on the 2400 to the pipeline crossing for the safety briefing Snacks and hot Lunch 1:30pm to 2:15pm will be provided by Dirt Cheap Cycle Coffee, hot cocoa, water, pop, chips, snack bars, soup and/or stew, chili-dogs hand warmers IF YOU HAVE A SMALL CHAINSAW AND ARE PROFICIENT please bring it any questions text 360.545.5995 or 360.427.3478
  9. Great news! River City MC is going to feed everyone on the January 25th trail day and is reimbursing me for $500 of trail tools! So...can anyone help me get a special deal on tools? Or recommend a favorite source? Should I look at the Harbor Freight stuff? Probably need pulaskis, grub hoes. I have MacLeods. Interested in recommendations too!
  10. If anyone has recommendations in Tahuya, I'm interested. This weekend, snow allowing, we'll go scout the northwest stuff. Last weekend, Raines Grade was good, 1.9 could use brushing but is about to be logged, and Derailleur needs brushing. Need to check Tommy and Severed Hand on east side too.
  11. Great news! River City MC is going to feed everyone and is reimbursing me for $500 of trail tools! So...can anyone help me get a special deal on tools? Or recommend a favorite source? Probably pulaskis, grub hoes. Interested in recommendations too. I have MacLeods.
  12. I will also be running several unofficial work parties during the week. As for work I could easily keep 25 guys busy for 25 hours each and not get everything done that's planned.
  13. Thank you sir i found it, might start early that day get done and be over by noon help you guys out in the afternoon.
  14. SDR Facebook gotta search a bit in the comments
  15. I do not work during the week,i did not know anything about work on the 20th. I have never seen anything posted about the 20th unless there is a group i am unaware of.If i knew the exact details of the work party on the 20th i would try, but i do not know about this work party and do not want to post misinformation.
  16. My Stihl hs82 hedge trimmer bit the dust after 60 hours of use. Stihl wouldn't cover it because it was normal wear and tear and not a defect. I will never by another Stihl product again.
  17. Haha, no kidding, they can get sketchy on exposed singletrack! You might think twice when you stop by the dealer. Damned things are $$$. My Husky retails for $320 and the Stihl for $400. That 82R is like $550. I just watched Facebook and OfferUp to score deals. Echo makes trimmers. I mentioned it in the chainsaw thread, but my Echo chainsaw is totally badass and like half the cost of a corresponding displachment Stihl or Husky...and IMO, those expensive saws can't touch it. The MS193 is nothing like the Echo CS-355T. @SRD_rider has the smaller CS-2511T and says it's better than the MS193. Warranty is good too.
  18. As an experiment, can one of you guys try going to the calendar and creating the event on the 20th? Want to see if it works or if we're hostage to me getting logged in and making changes. I think it's open to anyone in the "club" to change. https://thumpertalk.com/calendar/52-calendar/
  19. Too much to do from what i can see there wont be a SDR party canceled unless its weather related.
  20. I borrow my buddies Stihl gas hedger. It is pretty beasty but mount it to a pack frame and ride it up Shark rock then stash it wrapped in a trash bag during the summer months then we can just put in an hour or two on our rides.
  21. Looks like January 20th is also on the docket for an SDR party. For those that prefer not to 9-5 it Those have been cancelled in the past because so much was done on the wknd though
  22. Sweet. Thanks. Ill drop by the stihl store and see what they got. Interesting idea of possibly converting my chainsaw rack for one of these. Some days are chainsaw days and some days could be brushing days.... having one of these vertical or horizontal in a pack sounds cringy. I got enough to worry about working in the Teanaway as it is. Lol
  23. At the request of @cougbike, here's my clipper load-out. While far from ideal, I carry mine in an old Army-issues ALICE pack with the aluminum frame. There's enough space for a 2L bottle of fuel, and if I go through that, they run on the same 50-1 mix my bike does, so I've used that to refuel as well. I'll be honest...if I go through 3+ tanks of gas, I'm probably not going to have the energy to fill from the bike and keep going! Advantage: lots less effort than a machete or brush ax (and I love my Fiskars!). You can walk down a trail and brush pretty fast with all the face slappers runs on the same fuel my bike does. Lots of cutting power Disadvantage: It's an upper body workout and it seems like if you're brushing a "wingspan" on either side of the trail, you'll get tired real quick. My back was absolutely singing after 3 tanks of gas fighting salmonberry brambles down at Jordan Creek one day. fairly expensive and this is a single-purpose tool for me. I guess I could hit the bushes at the house once a month, but a cheapo electric will frankly last me a lifetime there. If you're dealing with brambles and stuff, they tend to grow away from the track and then droop in. This means the reach is even longer (assuming you want the brushing to last a while) and the damned things are falling on your head. Kind of difficult to carry. In the pack, the bar wants to hook on every overhead. I'm looking at options on how to reconfigure my chainsaw mount from Bill Dart. Easier to throw a saw in my pack and carry that. Standard electric vs gas concerns. Electric works at any altitude, but once it's dead, it's dead. No stopping for a snack and a refuel. Definitely looking for observations from guys with the electrics with regard to run time--especially in the cold. I really expected the electrics to be lighter, but they're not. "Powerhead" is pretty heavy, even while battery is not. My clippers: Husky - 122HD60 - swivel handle turns 90deg, which is awesome. Feels heavier and less smooth than the Stihl. Grease this with a grease gun and zerk fitting, which is super easy. Stihl - HS56 - smoother with the vibration damping, but more difficult to use with a handle not articulated. Requires grease in a tube (like toothpaste). Buddy has a higher end set of Stihl (maybe HS82) and those things are super torquey and smooth. Also another $150 retail. Yikes. A thought: I honestly think it COULD be more useful to get a ballsy straight-shaft weed whacker with a pair of handles and a harness. Run a blade and use that. The reach and ergonomics might actually be better for most underbrush cutting down low if you're looking to brush back from the trail, whereas the trimmers obviously cut huge swathes of face-slappers in each pass.
  24. As far as I can tell, this will be a 4x4 work day. It would only be useful probably to meet some of the 4x4 personalities who are currently really running the show there since there is no organized moto presence. I created an event for the focus group meeting on the Wednesday night before.
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    Reiter focus group with DNR and user groups. Basically an update on what is happening with the project up there. Everyone is welcome to come to it. Usually it is a pretty small group of people that can make it. January 22nd 7pm-9pm in Everett at the Snohomish County Courthouse complex. https://goo.gl/maps/FAEydWnt61C2Y4Cv5
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