He beat Stewart. He beat Reed. He beat Canard. He Beat Barcia, he also beat 13 other professionals. EVERYONE that wins a race should have an asterisk by their names! IF ONLY RC would have been there. If ONLY so and so would have had a better start. If you are on the ground, or not on the box, you got beat. Not winning, a race or a championship, means any of these - 1) You got a bad start (why should you win if you got a bad start, when the winner got a good start?) 2) You went down (why should you win if you crashed, but the winner didn't?) 3) You got hurt and didn't get to race (Why should you win if you got hurt, see #2) 4) You were not as fast. (perhaps due to wanting to prevent #2 and #3) If you are there, and your number is Red, it is irrelevant who was there or not. If you were there, and you won, you deserve to win it. If you were not there, there is a reason for it. Lets take myself and any other rider here. Lets race. If you can turn 2 minute laps, and I turn 2:02 laps but you go down - I win. You know what - I bet I could turn 1:59 laps, but I would have gone down. Cry all you want how you should have won. The guy who is there and on two wheels was the fastest one. I totally agree with everything you said but keep in mind that our new found member MichaelY is still learning what his willy is actually there for and may even have a hair or two on his ass at the age of 14. I'm glad to see a few young whippersnappers sticking around in here to keep all of us old farts on our toes lol. As for Dungey, I'll bet when the series hits Vegas he'll be right there in the points hunt for the championship. The guy is never going to let it all hang out there and can seemingly be boring to watch but he knows what he is in this for and that's the big trophy and #1 plate at the end of it.