I keep reading about all these people with 450's having such a far superior bike then any other thumper on the market. I have raced the same people as last year that changed to the honda, and suprise suprise, they finish in the same spot as last year. Maybe,just maybe when it comes to racing its the rider more then anything else. This weekend I went to a open practice and seen a guy get pissed off and leave the track after the first practice because he wasnt spanking everyone. I think he was upset because of all the hype about the honda being the ultimate moto-bike of all time. I rode the honda and think its a excellent bike, the best looking bike I have seen. It is different from the 426 and 520, not better, maybe the reason some of you talk all the smack is because you paid out the butt for that hype. One more thing, WHERE are all these fast guys at?? I only see you people when your at the back of the pack doing the wheelies in front of the stands, getting a little old. Dont really mean to make people mad, just realize its the rider first-skill,conditioning, proper bike set-up second,and a competitive bike last. So lets stop the talk, and hit it on the track.