Woods suspension tuner recommendation

I ride fast single track and need my suspension revalved who do you guys recommend

Everyone I talk to just says go to FC but how good do the know the terrain

I ride in SE MA

FC does a very good job with woods setups. They do GNCC pro bikes and a host of other riders in the area, so I wouldn't worry about them missing the mark. You can always send it back if you don't like it for a free revalve...

FC does a very good job with woods setups. They do GNCC pro bikes and a host of other riders in the area, so I wouldn't worry about them missing the mark. You can always send it back if you don't like it for a free revalve...

Yes they and the other big name susp tuners always talk about how they do "big name" GNCC" riders . The problem is that a GNCC is not very much like gnarly single track or woods alot of people ride. Yes GNCC goes thru the woods but it's wide open and is closer to vintage mx than single track or HareScramble terrain. With the exception of Snowshoe , Gncc is wide open with more rolling bumps , whoops and less square edge that you'd see in single track and naturally in the woods.

I've had susp done by two of these big name places, described very clearly what I ride and race... and it came back working great on the fast and open mining areas here and would have worked great at the unadilla gncc but wasnt too useable for single track with more square edge. I sent mine back twice both places and didnt like it. Every time you send it back it's like another 60 bucks shipping too. Seems these big tuners are locked in on GNCC and equate woods with gncc . Nothing against Gncc but Gncc is nothing like the Harescrambles, singletrack or the woods I ride.  These big tuners may do great for the big name guys, but we're not them and dont have a tuner standing there with us, taking feedback and changing stuff every 30 mins until it's right.

I just used GNCC as an example, they can do single-track setups and GNCC and everything in between. Any hi-volume revalve house has done tons of those setups over the years and model changes...

The key is being open an honest. For instance you can't say "I ride some single track with some mx track time, too" or you'll get something to stiff for single track.

Edited by Eddie8v

Yea I ride mostly fast flowing trails, some sandy, some have braking bumps, whoops hills, roots rocks but all single track on a gps the average speed is 20 mph

My buddy had his 07 cr250 set up 2 times by them the first was Netra setup that was so busy and soft it sucked, the other was to stiff

I just used GNCC as an example, they can do single-track setups and GNCC and everything in between. Any hi-volume revalve house has done tons of those setups over the years and model changes... The key is being open an honest. For instance you can't say "I ride some single track with some mx track time, too" or you'll get something to stiff for single track.

I hear you ...the problem is , I was very specific describing what terrain I ride , what pace I run at ...even the 3 series I run in ...and still it comes back in a way that would work great for MX and GNCC . I have quite a bit of fast , open , whoopy stuff here the quads ride and their susp worked great on that but did not work great for ecea type single track.  It just seems, at least in the experiences I had with big tuners, is that they are locked into a GNCC mentality.

I ended up having a local guy get it very good on the second try. He ended up doing a two stage comp stack which made it very compliant in the first 3-4 inches of travel (great for square edge) and yet it still remained firm enough after the first 3" travel to still hit any jumps I wanted to .

That was on my YZ 250 and YZ125 . I'm on a '13 XC now .

I have used fc on my yz250 for new england stuff. I did have it tweeked 3 times to get it the way I wanted all at extra expense. Ccycle nailed it for me on the first try. same description of wieght, conditions and speed

C-Cycle does a good job I have heard. They are pretty close to me but I have never used them.

I have used fc on my yz250 for new england stuff. I did have it tweeked 3 times to get it the way I wanted all at extra expense. Ccycle nailed it for me on the first try. same description of wieght, conditions and speed

I might try them

WER. Works Enduro Rider. They have done a great job on my bikes!

I hear you ...the problem is , I was very specific describing what terrain I ride , what pace I run at ...even the 3 series I run in ...and still it comes back in a way that would work great for MX and GNCC . I have quite a bit of fast , open , whoopy stuff here the quads ride and their susp worked great on that but did not work great for ecea type single track.  It just seems, at least in the experiences I had with big tuners, is that they are locked into a GNCC mentality.

I ended up having a local guy get it very good on the second try. He ended up doing a two stage comp stack which made it very compliant in the first 3-4 inches of travel (great for square edge) and yet it still remained firm enough after the first 3" travel to still hit any jumps I wanted to .

That was on my YZ 250 and YZ125 . I'm on a '13 XC now .

Who did the work?

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Edited by avocasingletrack

Who did the work?

fc . but cycle playground (who dont claim to be susp specialists) got the screwed up YZ working very good again

Edited by avocasingletrack

Give Budd Matto a try. I have tried a few different places then I brought my stuff to Budd, best rock suspension I hever had.

After doing some research, I'm starting to think that half the battle here is the terrain I ride. Fast single track that has similarities to mx. That said it still has roots and mass sand( like southwick as I live right on the coast) to loamy soil. There really aren't to many rocks in the trails I ride.

One issue I have is trying to seat bounce over a log my bike feels heavy and dose not get the front end up. I have tried my buddies bikes and can do it no problem but no one can do it on mine, what gives?

Fcr

After doing some research, I'm starting to think that half the battle here is the terrain I ride. Fast single track that has similarities to mx. That said it still has roots and mass sand( like southwick as I live right on the coast) to loamy soil. There really aren't to many rocks in the trails I ride.

One issue I have is trying to seat bounce over a log my bike feels heavy and dose not get the front end up. I have tried my buddies bikes and can do it no problem but no one can do it on mine, what gives?

maybe your springs are too light or you have a little too much rebound damping ??? Try that log with a few clicks less Reb damping ? Could be not enough preload on the shock ??? idk , something to try . You may just get along with his bike better ??? Good luck man !

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