'05 CRF250R spark tests - simple question

I posted a topic below about hard startin, maybe the post was too convoluted, so lets try this:

 

I want to test for spark by putting a plug in the cap, place elctrode on part of the frame or bolt and kick to see if there is spark present.

OK, I tried that - I ended up getting *shocked BIG TIME*  :crazy:  when grabbing the plug cap/coil after kicking.

 

How do I run these spark test without getting 40kv pumped though my body after kicking to check for spark? I've only seen one other post where they said this has happened.

 

Is there a way to discharge the stored voltage? I have to assume the voltage is in the actual plug cap/coil (COP) and not the ICM.

 

I posted a topic below about hard startin, maybe the post was too convoluted, so lets try this:

I want to test for spark by putting a plug in the cap, place elctrode on part of the frame or bolt and kick to see if there is spark present.

OK, I tried that - I ended up getting *shocked BIG TIME* :crazy: when grabbing the plug cap/coil after kicking.

How do I run these spark test without getting 40kv pumped though my body after kicking to check for spark? I've only seen one other post where they said this has happened.

Is there a way to discharge the stored voltage? I have to assume the voltage is in the actual plug cap/coil (COP) and not the ICM.

As far as i know and have expericed with sleds, bikes and boats you should not be getting shocked unless you are holding the plug while kicking in this case..

Something doesn't make sense here. Maybe a ground issue? Anyone else help on this one?

As far as i know and have expericed with sleds, bikes and boats you should not be getting shocked unless you are holding the plug while kicking in this case..

Something doesn't make sense here. Maybe a ground issue? Anyone else help on this one?

 

I know what you are saying. Trust me, I know enough not to grab onto any part of the ignition system while kicking or running. That's the crazy part.

 

I've been bit by my '05 CRF450R as well, I was having problems with the flywheel and stator. (I had bolted up a Trail Tech flywheel with what was an incorrect type for the OEM flywheel) Anyways, another folly of kicking and push starting and no pops, sputters or fire at all. Someone suggested the coil was bad so I ordered another. Went to remove the existing coil, touched the socket and extension to the mounting bolt and Ka-ZAP!!!! :crazy:  I don't like static electricity shocks let alone 20kv or 40kv or whatever juice the CDI and coil pump out on these systems.

 

So! Back to the 250 - I ordered a new oem plug cap/coil (I'll call it a cop) Figured I'd start there as I was suspicious when my son was yanking the cop off by the wire and I noticed that it looked like the wire had pulled out from the rubber housing a little. Hence why I was trying to do spark tests to see if the cop was fubar. I didn't want to fiddle with it anymore which is why I ordered the new one. So while waiting for the new plug cap/coil to arrive I pulled the carb. Discovered crud in the main and a plugged pilot.jet. Cleaned those out and a couple of other jets and orifices that I could find. Got the carb reassembled and installed just as my son walked in the days mail: NEW PLUG/COIL!

 

Went to install the new cop, put on my bomb squad suit and approached the old cop like it was C4. Used a pair of wood dowels to remove the cop. Then PLOP the spark plug wire fell away from the cop. Only then did I realize that the plug wire and cop where separate and used a connector junction to mate the plug wire to the cop. Duh, felt like a dummy. So I guess when my son yanked on it earlier the connector plug became slightly disconnected, maybe the reason for the intermittent spark issue and maybe why it was biting me. Good a guess as any.

So I had the new cop, figured might as well plug that one in (with dielectric grease applied to the terminal lugs of course)

 

Slapped the tank on, added a 1/4 tank of go juice, turned on the gas, pulled the choke, twisted the throttle for 3 squirts, then told my son to just cycle the kickstarter through a few times to fill up the carb and to suck some gas into the system. Well I'll sumbitch, it fired up first kick! He wasn't even trying to start it!!  Told him to hit the kill button and try it again. Bang, first kick again. Repeated 5 more times out of sheer giddiness. Did a few victory wheelies down the street. The neighbors love us. :cool:

I know what you are saying. Trust me, I know enough not to grab onto any part of the ignition system while kicking or running. That's the crazy part.

I've been bit by my '05 CRF450R as well, I was having problems with the flywheel and stator. (I had bolted up a Trail Tech flywheel with what was an incorrect type for the OEM flywheel) Anyways, another folly of kicking and push starting and no pops, sputters or fire at all. Someone suggested the coil was bad so I ordered another. Went to remove the existing coil, touched the socket and extension to the mounting bolt and Ka-ZAP!!!! :crazy: I don't like static electricity shocks let alone 20kv or 40kv or whatever juice the CDI and coil pump out on these systems.

So! Back to the 250 - I ordered a new oem plug cap/coil (I'll call it a cop) Figured I'd start there as I was suspicious when my son was yanking the cop off by the wire and I noticed that it looked like the wire had pulled out from the rubber housing a little. Hence why I was trying to do spark tests to see if the cop was fubar. I didn't want to fiddle with it anymore which is why I ordered the new one. So while waiting for the new plug cap/coil to arrive I pulled the carb. Discovered crud in the main and a plugged pilot.jet. Cleaned those out and a couple of other jets and orifices that I could find. Got the carb reassembled and installed just as my son walked in the days mail: NEW PLUG/COIL!

Went to install the new cop, put on my bomb squad suit and approached the old cop like it was C4. Used a pair of wood dowels to remove the cop. Then PLOP the spark plug wire fell away from the cop. Only then did I realize that the plug wire and cop where separate and used a connector junction to mate the plug wire to the cop. Duh, felt like a dummy. So I guess when my son yanked on it earlier the connector plug became slightly disconnected, maybe the reason for the intermittent spark issue and maybe why it was biting me. Good a guess as any.

So I had the new cop, figured might as well plug that one in (with dielectric grease applied to the terminal lugs of course)

Slapped the tank on, added a 1/4 tank of go juice, turned on the gas, pulled the choke, twisted the throttle for 3 squirts, then told my son to just cycle the kickstarter through a few times to fill up the carb and to suck some gas into the system. Well I'll sumbitch, it fired up first kick! He wasn't even trying to start it!! Told him to hit the kill button and try it again. Bang, first kick again. Repeated 5 more times out of sheer giddiness. Did a few victory wheelies down the street. The neighbors love us. :cool:

Right on! Glad to hear you got it figured out.

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