Cross reference info thread.

Please post exactly what part from another manufacturer will cross to a given Beta. I'll build a FAQ thread with a summary of all this information.

 

Thanks.

So far personally verified:

Motion Pro T3 KTM throttle cable

YZ 250 brake pads F&R

Fastway damper mount / bar clamp for KTM

A lot more but I'll let the guys who have done it personally chime in.

All KTM foot pegs for EXC and XC-W models. You will have to drill them out with a 10mm bit though.

KTM PHDS bar mounts

KTM clutch levers for Brembo clutches (except 350 XC-W)

I have a 2013 300RR

 

I have installed on mine the rear sprocket of a 2012 Honda CRF450 (seem to be 2002-2012 pattern, don't know if 2013 is the same)

Front brake lever is a classic Nissin 11mm (Honda for sure, but probably every Jap bike use it)

Rear brake pads are the same of  '08-'12 Yamaha YZ450F

For the Sachs fork you can use KYB seals and bushings and they gets really better:

 

110014800402 - KYB seals

110044800202 - KYB bushings

 

to use with KYB 01M fork oil

Edited by iceman kimi
For the Sachs fork you can use KYB seals and bushings and they gets really better:

 

110014800402 - KYB seals

110044800202 - KYB bushings

 

 

You've personally verified this with the Sachs?

 

Any idea on replacement wipers?

I have installed myself last month, after a talk with a suspension specialist.

I found the fork quite better but i did a little shim job.

The stock fork was super strong in the initial part and loose on the final part, exactly the opposite of what i wanted, now is quite better, is not a KYB obviously but i ride more securely.

For now (4 rides from the fork service) is not leaky, the stock was.

I did the service after 30 hours and the bushings had completely lost their teflon coating.

I want to remark, i did this on a '13 bike, im not sure this work on other sachs because they change something every year.

I did not change wipers because they was good, i also intalled a couple of seal protectors made out of ripstop nylon .

I have a 2013 300RR

 

I have installed on mine the rear sprocket of a 2012 Honda CRF450 (seem to be 2002-2012 pattern, don't know if 2013 is the same)

Front brake lever is a classic Nissin 11mm (Honda for sure, but probably every Jap bike use it)

Rear brake pads are the same of  '08-'12 Yamaha YZ450F

For the Sachs fork you can use KYB seals and bushings and they gets really better:

 

110014800402 - KYB seals

110044800202 - KYB bushings

 

to use with KYB 01M fork oil

Sachs are coming with SKF green low friction seals and wipers so its kinda odd to replace with std KYB (probably NOK) seals.

Also another observation is that if your seals are leaking, this happens because your wipers let debris in

The tolerance of the sachs fork are very poor, with tighter seals and bushings is better guided and keep the "center" avoiding the wiper to let pass debris.

 

With the SKF seals, if i pull the stanchion aside, a little backlash let the oil pass over the seal.

Maybe is my fork to be unlucky, and the others works fine, but this guy told me to go this way because he had already see this problem, and now the fork seems to work well with more sensitivity in the initial part.

 

I hope all other sachs don't need this mod, otherwise if someone want to try out this solution, now he know how.

Yes, this has been verified with the GG 48mm Sachs some time ago. FWIW they also fit the 48mm PFP Marzocchi, although the OEM SKF seals used in this fork on Race model allow very little stiction even from new. I'm sure a lot of this is the coatings and/or better specs on this version, as the GG version had high stiction and considerably longer break in time.

Ktm front and rear sprocket looks to be the same too.

 

Are wheel bearing the same as a Ktm? I did hear that Ktm wheels fit the bike apart from the disc being a bit smaller. I did mount a ktm disc to a friends 13 beta It was a bit smaller but you are really stuck it would work.

 

 

And headstock bearings similar to anything?

Ktm front and rear sprocket looks to be the same too.

 

Are wheel bearing the same as a Ktm? I did hear that Ktm wheels fit the bike apart from the disc being a bit smaller. I did mount a ktm disc to a friends 13 beta It was a bit smaller but you are really stuck it would work.

 

 

And headstock bearings similar to anything?

My understanding is the '14 rear sprocket is slightly different than a KTM sprocket. They'll bolt up but can damage the hub. When I get my bike back I'll check this.

The KTM rear sprokets do not fit the 14', the hole spacing is off a couple mm.    

KTM wheels do not fit the Beta. Left side drive Husky rear wheels fit with a 1.5mm longer sprocket side spacer. Front fits too, I'm in the process of getting new custom SS spacers made to do this, will post when done.

The KTM rear sprokets do not fit the 14', the hole spacing is off a couple mm.

Honda sprockets fit 13 and newer from what I have read.

I thought there was across ref thread started already?

   I fitted up a '12 crf450 rear sprocket on my '14 300rr. Works well.

2004-2014 KXF 250, 2006-2014 KXF 450 Brake pads will fit our Betas

 

DRC products have really cool stainless brake pins. PN for the set is D58-33-221

Honda sprockets fit 13 and newer from what I have read.

I thought there was across ref thread started already?

I'm going to build one like the FAQ in the KTM 250-530 forum with links to everything so people don't have to try to read a whole thread for info.

 

I'm just real busy for the next few weeks.

I'm going to build one like the FAQ in the KTM 250-530 forum with links to everything so people don't have to try to read a whole thread for info.

 

I'm just real busy for the next few weeks.

My so called "simple" KTM 300 refurbish project has been taking me months! 

 

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/1053336-05-300-exc-refurbish-project/?p=11169821

 

 

Thanks a lot for getting this going. Hell, I think most of us here have day jobs (or night in my case). Good on you for trying to get good cross reference info to us.  :thumbsup:   :)

Edited by ballisticexchris

I'm going to build one like the FAQ in the KTM 250-530 forum with links to everything so people don't have to try to read a whole thread for info.

 

I'm just real busy for the next few weeks.

   Awsome! Thanks Ud Luz.

Anybody knows about front sprocket cross references?

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