I started him riding 8 yrs ago with a XR 50, then a TTR90 then a KLX 140 (small wheel). The last couple years though he's not been on a bike as he's really just not into it. But the rest of the family is so we're looking at getting him another one so we can all ride together. That all being said, I'm looking at a TTR 125L or a CRF 150. Personally I'm not a huge fan of Honda but I think the 150 is a pretty solid bike. What I want to know is, which is really the better option of those two, to me it seems the CRF has a better platform and will be enough of a bike to last for several years. Also, I did look at a '04 last night and it felt really gutless, not sure if that's normal for these or are they just really wussy bikes?