Supercross season

I have a Tivo with a DVD recorder And Im going to record all of the Ama supercross events. I would then like to sell them indivisually or the whole season. What do you guys think? Is it legal?

No way! It's called boot-legging.

I'd have to go with the not legal viewpoint. It's all copyrighted material. Just don't sell it on eBay or something, keep them to those you know (TT'rs). :)

I have a Tivo with a DVD recorder And Im going to record all of the Ama supercross events. I would then like to sell them indivisually or the whole season. What do you guys think? Is it legal?

What a GREAT IDEA! You can become rich!!! :)

that's an awesome idea! you should also try renting DVDs, copying them and selling them. the same can be done with PlayStation2 games, CD's, anything you find on PayPerView, software.. the possibilites are simply endless. i'm really surprised nobody has ever thought of this before.

genius! :)

that's an awesome idea! you should also try renting DVDs, copying them and selling them. the same can be done with PlayStation2 games, CD's, anything you find on PayPerView, software.. the possibilites are simply endless. i'm really surprised nobody has ever thought of this before.

genius! :)

Don't forget about porn :D :D

True story: My son berkeboy is in 4th grade at a local Catholic school, and for Christmas the kids were supposed to exchange gifts with their classmates (secret buddies chosen at random or something). The teacher suggested several kinds of appropriate gifts, including copying your favorite music CD on a CD writer and giving the copy as the gift. :):D

Now it's bad enough for a teacher to be suggesting this to students, but at a Catholic school? &%$#@!?

I only found out about this the night before the gifts were due, and when I asked my wife about it, she blew up. We had one of our nastiest fights in years -- ouch. So now my wife and the Cathoic church have taken sides against copyright law, and I'm sitting there trying to teach my kids to do right. At least I had berkeboy read the copyright label and warning on the CD he wanted to have copied -- that seemed to help him understand.

The most ironic thing is that I've made most of my money over the years from my patents and other copyrighted material (money that bought the wife a new house recently!), so why the wife was screaming at me that it's okay to copy music CDs is beyond me. Hey Thumper -- maybe you and my wife should get together sometime. Maybe go to the social at the Catholic church by the school.... :D

Now it's bad enough for a teacher to be suggesting this to students, but at a Catholic school? &%$#@!?

I don't get it. Why would it be worse at a Catholic school than any other school? Wrong is wrong...religion aside....right? :)

thats what was thinkin as soon as i read that. last time i checked, the bible didn't mention it's stance on copyright infringement, which is only stealing since modern laws (man's laws) have been created to protect the sale of information or (intellectual property). i don't know that the catholic church has any more moral obligation to protect copyrights than anybody else does.. but it was still a good story.

i liked the part about the fighting. :)

does anyone chip there ps2 yet? and is it still working? i want to chip mine so i dont spenta few grand on games.

my ps1 was chipped and i had about 50 burnt games.

was a good deal

I know a guy that chipped his. :) It was a pain in the butt, because the solder points are so small. It seems to work well though.

thats what was thinkin as soon as i read that. last time i checked, the bible didn't mention it's stance on copyright infringement, which is only stealing since modern laws (man's laws) have been created to protect the sale of information or (intellectual property). i don't know that the catholic church has any more moral obligation to protect copyrights than anybody else does.. but it was still a good story.

i liked the part about the fighting. :D

The Bible doesn't mention anything about stealing cars either, but stealing is stealing. :)

cars are a material possession and music isn't.. which was my point.. the one you missed because you were too busy thinkin you were smart.

stealing a song? stealing sound? the same as stealing a car? are you serious? :)

so if you could somehow figure out a way to steal a fart, that would be the same too? (assuming anyone would mind you stole their fart) :D *pllttltltt-

cars are a material possession and music isn't.. which was my point..

The point of patents and copyrights is to stimulate the creation of more and better "intellectual property", which can help everyone in the end. Since I can protect my work with a patent which earns me money, I'm motivated to invent more and better things, which can help everybody in the end. At least that's the theory. So you get inventions like X-ray machines, CT/MRI systems and other med stuff that helps to heal you and keep you healthier. And the Internet and computers so we can talk about riding and other stuff here with our TT buds. Etc., etc.

And copyright protection helps motivate writers to write books and magazine articles. Without copyright protection, Tom Clancy would still be selling insurance, and my bookcase would be empty.

Music is much the same -- without copyright protection, nobody could make a living making music, so we wouldn't have << fill in your favorite 10 groups and artists here >>.

The best argument supporting copying of music is that the music industry tends to ream us for their product. But America is supposed to have a free market, with prices driven by supply and demand (not theft), so if they get away with charging higher prices than reasonable, it's because a lot of people are willing to pay the higher prices.

Anyway, like I said in my earlier post, I pretty much make my living because of patent protection (and to a lesser extent copyright protection), so that's the side I pick in this discussion. BTW, I'm glad you liked the fight -- at least somebody did! :):D

oh i understand all about what copyrights are, why they exist, and the benefits of having them for the people who use them. i'm a photographer, i hold the copyrights to thousands of images. they exist solely for reasons of money and to prevent other people from making money off of something that you created and are trying to make money off of. while i don't agree with the idea that it speeds or promotes developement- it's like open source programming, free copyrights allow for faster saturation of ideas- i understand where that perspective comes from.

but aside from all this, there are no religeous connections to copyrights as they only pretend to be owned property per man's law. when it comes down to it, you are protecting information (and for the sake of money). information has always been freely passed throughout history from one to the other.. until it became something to make lots of money from.. but i don't think that God cares much about the commercial value placed on ideas, information, music, etc.

you can definitely make a sound legal case against it, i think everyone agrees there. but i don't see anything that would amke it a particularly religeous morality issue.

but i don't see anything that would make it a particularly religeous morality issue.

Sounds like we are on the same page overall. The Catholic school angle bothered me because they are supposed to be teaching values like "thou shalt not steal". It seemed ironic to me that the teacher could teach the 10 commandments one period, and then encourage copyright theft in the next period. I guess it's even more ironic that I'm the non-religious person in our family, and this bothered me way more than it did the wife and kids! :)

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