Baldy Mesa riders

California

I got some equestrian friends out there. They informed me yesterday that the local horse nut is all excited about his recent accomplishment regarding patrol if that area. This weekend the patrol will be very heavy. The main focus of the patrol is to prove to the green sticker pepole that the traffic there is so heavy with dirtbikers and deem it unsafe.

Becareful out there

Sounds like BIG PATROLS this weekend...  so they have citations to brag about at a big Baldy Mesa OHV meeting on Wednesday next week.

someone needs to post this on the oakland raider forum

Edited by Save_A_Tree_Eat_A_Beaver

It's always nice to see our hard earned tax dollars being put to good use . . . hassling the taxpayers that already pay their salaries, writing tickets to justify their existence.  Was nice to see on the news the other day that LEOs were being commended for their actions taking down the Dorner guy . . . no mention of the two ladies delivering newspapers or the other random guy that those cowards in uniform opened fire on. 

Dont forget the unwarranted searches they did of every residence up there........but im sure there is some loophole that allows them to shit on the 4th amendment once more....back to sleep.

 

 

 

 

 

btw this was a quick hijack  :thumbsup:

someone needs to post this on the oakland raider forum

ROTFLMAO........ :thumbsup:

It's always nice to see our hard earned tax dollars being put to good use . . . hassling the taxpayers that already pay their salaries, writing tickets to justify their existence.  Was nice to see on the news the other day that LEOs were being commended for their actions taking down the Dorner guy . . . no mention of the two ladies delivering newspapers or the other random guy that those cowards in uniform opened fire on. 

Eight Los Angeles police officers who opened fire on a mother and daughter delivering newspapers during the manhunt for a rogue ex-officer violated the department’s policy of using deadly force, officials said.

The findings were presented to the civilian Los Angeles Police Commission Tuesday, commission president Steve Soboroff said in a statement. It will be up to Police Chief Charlie Beck to decide how, if at all, to discipline the officers, who have been assigned duty out of the field.

"I sympathize with the officers, but I have a very high standard for the application of deadly force. This shooting did not meet that standard," Beck said.

 

 

The news comes almost a year after Margie Carranza and her mother Emma Hernandez came under fire Feb. 7, 2013, while they were delivering newspapers in the 19500 block of Redbeam Avenue in Torrance.

"(Beck is) in a tough position, but he decided to do the right thing and find that the shooting was outside of policy because let's face it, it was," said Glen Jonas, the attorney for the two women.

Officers were posted on protective duty in the neighborhood because a police captain who lives there was named in a manifesto written by disgruntled ex-officer Christopher Dorner, who killed four people during a rampage that kept southern California on heightened alert for days.

"The officers had been given information that the captain’s wife had seen Dorner in the neighborhood," Beck said.

As the newspaper women slowly drove down the street with their high-beam headlights and flashers on, officers opened fire on their blue Toyota Tacoma pickup truck apparently mistaking it for Dorner’s gray or dark blue Nissan Titan. It was about 5:15 a.m.

 

 

Soboroff said the officers noted that the women's license plate began with the same characters as Dorner's -- "8D." He said the women were driving slowly then accelerated, crossing the center line of the roadway.

"Ultimately, the officers believed by the erratic manner the vehicle was driving that it was occupied by Dorner," Soboroff said. "These observations led the officers to discharge their weapons at the vehicle to stop the threat."

Hernandez, then 71, was shot twice in the back and Carranza, then 47, was injured by broken glass.

The department's Use of Force Review Panel had found the shooting justifiable, but Beck overruled and the civilian oversight commission agreed with him.

“Different make, a different model. You have a different race, a different gender so there was no real match,” Jonas said.

 

 

Last April, the women settled their case with the city of Los Angeles for $4.2 million. Regardless, the shooting could have been found to be "in policy" if it was determined that the officers perceived an imminent lethal threat.

 

Just hours before at about 1:20 a.m., the hunt for Dorner ratcheted up after two Riverside officers were ambushed in their police car, and one of them was killed.

An attorney for the women said police fired more than 100 rounds into their pickup truck. A bullet pierced the hood of Hernandez’s sweatshirt, he said.

In an exclusive interview with NBC4 last July -- five months after the shooting -- the women recounted their horror but also expressed empathy for what police were going through when Dorner was at large. Carranza confided that she was still afraid to leave her home at night.

"I am scared that I will get shot by police," she told NBC4.

The same morning the women were shot at, another pickup truck driver – David Perdue – was fired upon by police during the frenzied manhunt. He was given $20,000 by the city of Torrance.

Last month, the Los Angeles District Attorney said that no criminal charges would be filed against the officers who shot at Perdue in their search for Dorner.

The disgruntled ex-officer vowed bloodshed against law enforcement agents and their families until his 2008 firing from the LAPD was investigated and his name cleared. He had been accused of lying that a supervisor kicked a suspect. An LAPD report found that his termination was justified.

Authorities said Dorner killed the daughter of a former LAPD captain and her fiancé on Feb. 3, 2013, before slaying a Riverside police officer on Feb. 7, 2013, and a San Bernardino County Sheriff's detective on Feb. 12, 2013.

The manhunt ended Feb. 12 with a shootout and standoff in the Big Bear area.

Dorner was holed up in a cabin surrounded by authorities when a police tear gas canister shot into the residence started a fire. Dorner died from an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to deputies.

"In this instance, we terminated an individual from LAPD during his probationary period. And four years later, he comes back to haunt us all," Beck said.

I'll make sure to bring all those points to the meeting...  :lol:

There was a point? :D

Ya...  next time a cop goes ape shit...  find a scared cop...  wave my arms...  get shot...  collect 4.2 million...  and I'm off to Didneyland !  wings.gif

Shit, I'm off to Didneyland on Monday. Prolly go the whole week. Cept maybe Friday :-)

Hernandez, then 71, was shot twice in the back and Carranza, then 47, was injured by broken glass.  An attorney for the women said police fired more than 100 rounds into their pickup truck. 

 

 

I don't know BOLT, seems like a pretty risky plan . . . waving your arms???  I think if you want to improve your odds you should almost treat this like any other predator encounter.  Don't move but make yourself as large as possible.  This will make you a larger target and allow the police a better chance to actually hit YOU instead of blasting your poor truck, bike, dog, etc.  I would also consider wearing a dark color football jersey, hoodie, etc and maybe even consider a dark spray tan . . . you  know give them a target they are more familiar with.  ;)

BALDY MESA OHV GRANT COMMENT MEETING

 

Hi Gang

 

This meeting on Wednesday THIS WEEK is the final in a serious that concludes the grant public comments period.  There will be horse people there fighting to close Baldy Mesa.  It is important that we have OHV BODIES IN THAT ROOM.   It's in Hesperia and there are a LOT of you in the neighborhood.

 

We need to not lose this OHV area...  whether you ride there or not we need as many miles of trails as we can keep.  We also cannot let a few horse folk from Phelan bully the Forest Service into closing trails here...  or it can lead to the same action elsewhere.

 

Help us go win this one !

 

WEDNESDAY - February 19, 2014 - 6:00pm to 8:00pm 

 

Holiday Express
9750 Key Point Ave.
Hesperia, CA

 

PM me for any details you might need...  Thank you

People can mock, trash,and disparage the place all they want. For me living in Upland, BM is the closest Legal place to go for a weekday afternoon ride. Less than 30 min. from my driveway to unloading. I Will fight for it! See you on Wednesday!

If you can help me how to find some numbers, how much does it cost to regester a horse compared to an off road bike in Ca.? And where can I find how many horses are regestered compared to bikes.? Thanks.

horses arent registered...

 

i would love to go, unfortunately i am out of town on work

 

i think i would bring a unique opinion to the discussion, because i have horses and bikes (i should say, wife has horses) i personally hate the nasty beasts

 

that said, if i were there, i would bring up the fact that horses have orders of magnitude more opportunities for riding areas, furthermore, horses are not exactly great for the ecology

 

it would be tought to quantify, but i would also submit that by and large horseback riding is much worse on a per activity basis, the justification for my argument is that every horse person has a 3/4 ton diesel to pull the trailer, most dirtbikers i know throw their 200lb bike into a tacoma....

 

godspeed

I'm working...or else I would be there

It's always nice to see our hard earned tax dollars being put to good use . . . hassling the taxpayers that already pay their salaries, writing tickets to justify their existence.  Was nice to see on the news the other day that LEOs were being commended for their actions taking down the Dorner guy . . . no mention of the two ladies delivering newspapers or the other random guy that those cowards in uniform opened fire on. 

 

Dave ... "the other random guy they fired on" is a good friend of close to 20 yrs. ...... he was/is traumatized but is going to be very compensated much more than the 20k!

He was in a Honda Ridgeline ... only a dumb cop whose trained to spot suspect vehicles could possibly mistake it for a Nissan Titan  

Edited by JokerWR

All cops are "dumb" if you score too high on the intelligence test you wont get in

 

Average IQ or less

 

Smart people who think for themselves dont usually take orders without question

Wondering if anyone was out there this weekend? And , is anyone thinking they may go to the meeting tonight?

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I have 3 guys meeting me there so far.

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