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Hey everyone


     I'm looking to get a new bike some time soon, i have a little riding experience, not very much. I had a crf100f when i was a kid and I just bought a KLX 250s last year and quickly realized the bike was not quite what i was looking for. The bike was absolutely great to learn on again just to get the feel for driving on dirt and rocks, but its no dirtbike. I have never even sat on a 2 stroke before, and i have never been on a high performanceicon1.png 4 stroke, the KLX is the only bike i have ever really done any offroading with.


     I do a lot of riding on really really loose gravel, bigger rocks, mud, and water. Trails have tons of ruts. I have been doing alright on the KLX, and i can get what i want done on it for the most part, but its really not easy, the bike is 280 lbs-ish, and it has a serious lack of power. the bike is not confidence inspiring at all and i would like a more powerful & lighter bike. I do ride fairly slowly with short bursts of speed, but overall im not the fastest rider around, i would like a bike that i can lug around without it being to much of a handful.


     So im looking at bikes to buy and i come across the KTM 200 EXC. Here are my Questions


1. I know maintenance is easier/cheaper/ with the 2 strokes, but are oil changes and all that good stuff less frequent? 

2. Can this bike be lugged around? will lugging it too often screw up the engine or any parts?

3. How much of a punch does the powerband have? is it easy to get yourself into trouble on a tight trail or on bigger rocks if you are inexperienced?  

4. Overall, is this a good "first" offroad bike? I often see reviews where people call the bikes Angry little things, they seriously cant be THAT bad... can they?


     I'm willing to learn the bike inside out before i start pushing my luck, id like to gain serious offroading skills. when im home i ride almost every morning before lunch, i cant get enough of it. i will not be racing the bike or competing at all, this is 100% just for trails and mucking around with. 22 years old, 6'2", 190 lbs.



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I just purchased a '00 200 exc for a friend. He actually had very similar riding experiences as you. I recommended the 2 stroke for ease of maintanace and cheap cost of replacing parts. The bike we got was in great shape and needed nothing but a fresh tank of gas to be ridden for the season.


The 200 is a great beginner/intermediate all the way up to advanced bike. The motor with a flywheel weight will lug down and have easy power. The bike we have has an FMF gnarly pipe and silencer, and it has a pretty hard hitting mid range. Utilizing a flywheel weight (as much weight as you can buy for it) and a throttle tamer will go leaps and bounds towards making the bike easier to ride and get used to. The 200 has a lot of grunt when you want it too.


the ktm is definitely a high end power bike for the 200cc 2 stroke range, a KDX 200 would probably be a lot easier to learn on. With that said, you are 22, and in good shape and will probably improve very quickly. The ktm may be a little much of the bat, but you will grow into it very quickly and it will make you a better rider

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The answer to your question depends on what you really want out of your bike.


The KTM 200 is much more competiton-oriented than the KDX. The KTM 200 has the quick-revving, hard-hitting top-end of a very healthy 125, with the low-end torque of a 250 two-stroke. Keep in mind, it's no KDX, the pumpkin has a much more aggressive, competition-oriented power curve. It's a sweet power plant for aggressive riders, because it's snappy, free-revving, tractable, torquey, and pulls over a very long spread. If you're looking for a KDX-like, mild-mannered trail bike, though, you'll be disappointed. It's not very happy putt-putting around the campsite, it wants to be ridden. I've had two of them, and they are among the best woods/mountain trail bikes you could ever hope to buy, if you like to be aggressive and go fast. The powervalve adjustment has a limited effect in making the hit smoother or more abrupt, but it won't change the basic characteristics of the power curve. Just think of the 200 as a mini-250 with some extra top-end scream.


The KDX, on the other hand, in stock form, is Clark Kent to the KTM's Superman. It's mellow, friendly, and will never intimidate you. It's cushy and comfortable, and is perfectly happy to cruise around at sight-seeing speeds all day long. But it also goes fast quite well when the desire strikes you, it just takes a little more work than the KTM to do it. A well-setup KDX200 can show it's rear fender to many more powerful bikes in the twisty nasty woods. And therein lies the rub. A stock KDX is rather poorly set up from the factory. It is jetted very poorly, the suspension is unbalanced, and it has a very corked-up exhaust system. But simple jetting changes, stiffer fork springs to balance the suspension, an opened-up air box, and an aftermarket exhaust system will transform the bike into a friendly-yet-deceptively-fast trail/race bike. For less money than the stock KTM200.


The KDX is a bit heavier than the KTM, but not so much that it's unpleasant to ride. The brakes aren't quite as powerful as the KTMs either, but they are still good, and supremely controlable.


The KTM has a reputation for very high build quality and has many excellent parts, such as a hydraulic clutch, stock forged piston (the KDX 220 OEM piston is known to be flawed and short-lived), excellent Brembo brakes, etc.


You would be happy with either bike. The KDX is a more mellow ride, while the KTM can be busy and hyper-feeling at times. But they are both excellent off road mounts.


I will say you're a tad heavy for either bike, no matter which one you get you'll need to re-spring/re-valve the suspension.

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