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I realize the title might be vague, but I promise it has a purpose. 

 

I've been working on my degree in sports therapy and plan to specialize in conditioning. As a avid rider I've always been interested in how conditioning relates to being a better rider. 

 

We all know the basics I hope. Endurance, strength, cardiovascular, and general balance. But what I'd like to ask you riders is, what do you feel is "key" to your growth? I ask this because as I move forward in my learning, I'd like to use this knowledge and background to create a program I can use to teach, condition, and help riders recover from injury. I know this field is not primarily used for dirt bike riders, but as athletes I believe there is a need for a specialist to help riders get stronger, faster, and reach their peak performance well at the same time reduce the rate of injury where possible.

 

So with that, what parts of your body do you feel take the most abuse, do you feel could use some help, and that you feel may be neglected by our peers?   

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I'm older, but when I wanted to be a better runner, I ran.

When I wanted to be a better cyclist I cycled.

When I wanted to ride dirt bikes better, I rode dirt bikes.

Nowhere near pro level, but I suspect few here are.

Mike

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Beer!

And lots of it!

Lmbo

Seriously though, I don't work out. Riding is my work out.

I've always believed in seat time builds fitness for riding!

Ride all types of terrain.

Basically, MX & sx are like your sprinters.

Gncc and harescramble, desert would be your marathoners!

Do you lift weights and do pushups to run a marathon?

Don't get me all twisted either, I'm not bagging on your profession.

I just believe that there's no substitution for seat time.

Jmho

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There is no substitute for exercise other than to ride a dirt bike through the desert 90 minute non stop runs until you have to return to camp to fuel up again. MX or TRAIL biking works every muscle in your body. I can't think of a thing other than rest as "conditioning" before hand. The best thing a body can do before it subjects itself to a rigorous workout is get plenty of rest, and a good night sleep before.

 

Unfortunately, unless any given rider does this every day, it can't take the place of a short workout every morning before starting your day.  :devil:  

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Seat time is indeed a necessary requirement to become a better rider. Just going to the gym won't teach you anything about motorcycles.

 

In my eyes riding a dirt bike requires more than seat time. What I've been looking into is hard to explain without going into massive detailt. I see a few key areas that help riders core strength, core stability, shoulders, leg strength, and lastly balance.

 

Seat time is great, and I'm not saying going to the gym and "pump iron" sadly that's a misconception about Sports therapy and conditioning haha.

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Seat time is indeed a necessary requirement to become a better rider. Just going to the gym won't teach you anything about motorcycles.

 

In my eyes riding a dirt bike requires more than seat time. What I've been looking into is hard to explain without going into massive detailt. I see a few key areas that help riders core strength, core stability, shoulders, leg strength, and lastly balance.

 

Seat time is great, and I'm not saying going to the gym and "pump iron" sadly that's a misconception about Sports therapy and conditioning haha.

 

This has been covered a few times in the health and fitness area.

 

Basically the long and skinny of what I read there is that riding a push bike is the best thing. It gets the heart rate up for extended periods and keeps your eye in on two wheels.

 

Beer!

And lots of it!

Lmbo

How'd you know my secret sports nutrition diet!

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Seat time is indeed a necessary requirement to become a better rider. Just going to the gym won't teach you anything about motorcycles.

In my eyes riding a dirt bike requires more than seat time. What I've been looking into is hard to explain without going into massive detailt. I see a few key areas that help riders core strength, core stability, shoulders, leg strength, and lastly balance.

Seat time is great, and I'm not saying going to the gym and "pump iron" sadly that's a misconception about Sports therapy and conditioning haha.

All the conditioning in the world won't help 1 rider, if he or she is not confident in their abilities and comfortable with the machine.

Maybe practice using a clutch!

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Beer!

And lots of it!

Lmbo

Seriously though, I don't work out. Riding is my work out.

I've always believed in seat time builds fitness for riding!

Ride all types of terrain.

Basically, MX & sx are like your sprinters.

Gncc and harescramble, desert would be your marathoners!

Do you lift weights and do pushups to run a marathon?

Don't get me all twisted either, I'm not bagging on your profession.

I just believe that there's no substitution for seat time.

Jmho

In fact most professional marathon runners do lift weights to some extent. The same for professional cyclists, swimmers, tennis players and more. 

 

You don't build balanced "strength" by just doing activities within your sport. For example, professional boxes focus alot of time on their legs, gluts, back, and shoulders. A punch is not delivered by sheer arm strength it's created using muscles and forces generated through the entire body. 

 

This is why I'm trying to create a educational and beneficial method of conditioning for riders, because most believe only riding will make them better. But if they also including physical conditioning geared for their sport that will support them, they will be able to ride harder, longer, and faster. And would keep their ideal form going longer. 

 

How many riders wish they could do a entire 2+ hour hare-scramble in peak condition like they where for the first hour? How about doing a day long enduro and not feel gas'd after just half the race and need to "suck though it". 

 

I've got a few more years of education and apprenticeships ahead of me, but I my goal is to work with some of the top riders and make them better.

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Basically the long and skinny of what I read there is that riding a push bike is the best thing.

How'd you know my secret sports nutrition diet!

I've had a few kawis before, once you have to push them up hill out to the truck for a couple miles, yes it gets your heart rate up! And your temper!

Beer is the breakfast of Aussies isn't it?

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So basically you want to become this guy, but for the fitness of riders?

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I've had a few kawis before, once you have to push them up hill out to the truck for a couple miles, yes it gets your heart rate up! And your temper!

Beer is the breakfast of Aussies isn't it?

I don't know about for breakfast itself, but some people that I've known seem to use it as a replacement for water.

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So basically you want to become this guy, but for the fitness of riders?

 

So because I want to help riders, and you don't agree with my methods. you attempt to mock me? Seems rather childish. 

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So because I want to help riders, and you don't agree with my methods. you attempt to mock me? Seems rather childish.

I dare say many people have a job in fitness training the professional riders. You have a very valid idea but its not new and I'm also sure you could have a future career doing exactly what you want.

But then there's trail hacks such as myself who'd find the best way of getting faster is to ride more.

There is a whole section in this forum about what sort of exercises and diets one needs to improve fitness.

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I dare say many people have a job in fitness training the professional riders. You have a very valid idea but its not new and I'm also sure you could have a future career doing exactly what you want.

But then there's trail hacks such as myself who'd find the best way of getting faster is to ride more.

There is a whole section in this forum about what sort of exercises and diets one needs to improve fitness.

 

And that's a defining factor between the current generation and the past generation of riders. Top young riders today are embracing the fact that just riding is not enough to bring them to the next level, they require more. 

 

I'm well aware of the fitness training right now provided to some top riders, if I had to word how I feel about it. I'd say it's still a work in progress and developing. My goal is to create a system of training specific to the needs of the dirt bike riders. A system like this would differ from a standard well rounded fitness program that some riders take part in.

 

That's why I was trying to gather some feedback from the average rider on where they feel they are lacking. 

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So because I want to help riders, and you don't agree with my methods. you attempt to mock me? Seems rather childish.

I'm just giving you a hard time.

Its all good.

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That's why I was trying to gather some feedback from the average rider on where they feel they are lacking.

On a serious note, myself, I would say timing and balance.

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Of course exercise outside of the sport is required. If you can keep a lower heart rate and not think about it, you can concentrate on different lines and techniques and you'll have a clearer thought process. If you have a strong upper body, you can pull harder on the bike and make the bike work for you; not the bike works you. If you have strong legs you can grip harder with less effort, and put your leg out for long corners longer.

You can't just expect to throw the bike into a scrub like bubba without strength; you can't stand the bike in te rear wheel in a pivot like blazuziak with out strength.

Yes you can ride all the time, but, exercise is a free or low expense way of keeping your body in shape and helps you in later life when you can support your back and hips better too.

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Stay away from heavy weight lifting. Do low weight 12-15 reps in 4 sets. Also a lot of core work, squats and light upper body. I find a combination of sprints and concept rower for cardio. The high intensity of cross fight in short duration is good too.

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