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Why cant i get it up?

Ive had my drz for about 2 months now. And I love it, but for the past 2 weeks ive been cruising and find an empty parking lot or empty riad to practice wheelies. I can get the front wheel more than maybe 2 inches. What am I doing wrong? Going 25-30 in 2nd and clutching it up and it wont go!

Before anyone says anything

yes im wearing gear

yes im covering the back brake

and no theres no one else on the street

any help?

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Ummmm they have little blue pills for those that can't get it up :thumbsup: Sorry had too.....What gears are you running....My bike has 14/47 gears I don't have to clutch up in 2nd to get the wheel up just give it some gas chop it and give it a quick flick of half throttle and up she comes. Will do it in 3rd as well....4th gear I need some clutch. Even with stock gears 15/45 I could get the wheel up without the clutch in 2nd.

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Oh were are you on the seat? Sit back maybe some don't lean forward when it starts to come up...Stay straight hardest thing to do is that! 

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Oh were are you on the seat? Sit back maybe some don't lean forward when it starts to come up...Stay straight hardest thing to do is that!

IDK What gearing i have. The bike has 15000 miles and touring tires and was ridden by an older guy so im guessing maybe he has more of a highway cruising gearing. Even when i clutch up and pull back on the bars i cant get it up. I sit pretty far back. Like where the seat says suzuki. And yeah i figured someone would make that sort of reference lol. thats why I named the thread what i did

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It is important to know what gearing you have on your SM.It will make a difference in your ability to pull a good wheelie.If the previous owner geared the bike taller than the stock 15/41(2.73) gearing then that could explain why you are having a hard time.If your bike does in fact have 15/41 gearing then your motor isn't running right.A stock SM will wheelie on stock gearing without issue.Especially in the first 2 gears just by giving it throttle and leaning back.

 

If you want to make it easier you could gear the bike 14/44 (3.14) for stunting but it wouldn't be well suited for highway use however it would accelerate quick in town.

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It is important to know what gearing you have on your SM.It will make a difference in your ability to pull a good wheelie.If the previous owner geared the bike taller than the stock 15/41(2.73) gearing then that could explain why you are having a hard time.If your bike does in fact have 15/41 gearing then your motor isn't running right.A stock SM will wheelie on stock gearing without issue.Especially in the first 2 gears just by giving it throttle and leaning back.

If you want to make it easier you could gear the bike 14/44 (3.14) for stunting but it wouldn't be well suited for highway use however it would accelerate quick in town.

I run 14/44 on my S and it will pull up 2 easily on throttle and in first it flies up quickly! It tops out around 87 mph at 9500 (on trail tech)! 60 is good cruising speed without it sounding like the piston is going to fly out of the engine!
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Why cant i get it up?

I can get the *&%$# up more than maybe 2 inches

 

You just need to keep practicing there O'L mate...Once you get the technique right you will be good...

Until you get the technique ,..... having shorter gearing, more power, low fuel load , a comprehensive accident insurance or someone else's bike will be of assistance...

 

And call me child if you wish, but as DRZ-Nut says "Ummmm they have little blue pills for those that can't get it up, Sorry had too."  :p 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Practice practice practice! I run 16/39 gearing and mine will come up in 2nd with no clutch. Try 1st gear with no clutch. Hit throttle and throw your weight back. ImageUploadedByThumper Talk1401721067.762975.jpg

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It is important to know what gearing you have on your SM.It will make a difference in your ability to pull a good wheelie.If the previous owner geared the bike taller than the stock 15/41(2.73) gearing then that could explain why you are having a hard time.If your bike does in fact have 15/41 gearing then your motor isn't running right.A stock SM will wheelie on stock gearing without issue.Especially in the first 2 gears just by giving it throttle and leaning back.

If you want to make it easier you could gear the bike 14/44 (3.14) for stunting but it wouldn't be well suited for highway use however it would accelerate quick in town.

Ok I have 15/41 gearing which is stock right? I guess ill practice more. Ive never done wheelies on a 2 wheeled bike, only quads. I know how to i guess i have to get practice more.

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Keep your arms almost locked. Most people with trouble doing wheelies don't realize that they are leaning forward. The hard part is fighting that instinct to lean forward.

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I performed my first "clutch up" wheelie just yesterday putting around the neighborhood. Using 1st gear. Was surprised how easy it was and all the neighborhood kids were cheering and thought I was a pro and knew what I was doing... boy did I have them fooled :lol:   Make sure you don't just dump the clutch, you have to rev it up and release it smoothly.

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Ok I have 15/41 gearing which is stock right? I guess ill practice more. Ive never done wheelies on a 2 wheeled bike, only quads. I know how to i guess i have to get practice more.

 That is stock gearing for an SM, 15/44 is stock for the S model. Because of the difference in tire diameters they are essentially the same.

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There's a technique.

 

Like with wakeboarding, you'll see a noob fight it like mad until the water overpowers them and they come in thinking that it's a brute strength issue. They think they need to go home and lift weights for a year before trying again. Then they get a feel for it and see it takes as much effort as getting off the toilet.

 

I bet that if you were to suddenly have the technique and give it the same effort, you'd be on your back wondering what happened. 

 

Scoot back on the seat, rock forward and then backward, exponentially release the clutch and apply throttle during the backward rocking motion. You can practice the rocking feel by moving with the bike as you apply full throttle - no throttle - full throttle - no throttle (repeat as long as you like, try this in first gear).

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There's a technique.

 

Like with wakeboarding, you'll see a noob fight it like mad until the water overpowers them and they come in thinking that it's a brute strength issue. They think they need to go home and lift weights for a year before trying again. Then they get a feel for it and see it takes as much effort as getting off the toilet.

 

I bet that if you were to suddenly have the technique and give it the same effort, you'd be on your back wondering what happened. 

 

Scoot back on the seat, rock forward and then backward, exponentially release the clutch and apply throttle during the backward rocking motion. You can practice the rocking feel by moving with the bike as you apply full throttle - no throttle - full throttle - no throttle (repeat as long as you like, try this in first gear).

 

Agreed, the wake boarding reference is spot on. I'm no wheelie expert but I was having the same issue as OP. It's all technique. First gear is seat position and wacking the throttle.. it will come up. I'm at stock sm gearing. I was afraid of whacking it right open so I was just accelerating quickly and barely popping it up. Sitting back a bit further and opening it right up lifts the front plenty fast!

 

Next I moved on to trying second gear clutch ups. Again, first I was sitting too far up, timing was all off. Front was staying planted. I moved back a bit, finally got the timing right where I will tug slightly on the bars as I throttle up and do a quick pull/release of clutch with two fingers.

 

Front will come up fast and you can do it at a lower speed in second.

 

Next is to learn to switch gears, and find that balance point. It's addicting. I watched a lot of videos but to be honest the biggest help was just getting out to a parking lot and trying over and over. It's tough to put it all into words. Again, I'm not great at it but getting better every time I practice. Keep at it and cover the rear brake! :thumbsup::ride:

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I performed my first "clutch up" wheelie just yesterday putting around the neighborhood. Using 1st gear. Was surprised how easy it was and all the neighborhood kids were cheering and thought I was a pro and knew what I was doing... boy did I have them fooled :lol: Make sure you don't just dump the clutch, you have to rev it up and release it smoothly.

ive been popping the clutch all along.

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You just need to keep practicing there O'L mate...Once you get the technique right you will be good...

Until you get the technique ,..... having shorter gearing, more power, low fuel load , a comprehensive accident insurance or someone else's bike will be of assistance...

And call me child if you wish, but as DRZ-Nut says "Ummmm they have little blue pills for those that can't get it up, Sorry had too." :p

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Thanks guys, ill practice alot. I have this whole week off
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Let me start by saying I am not and do not claim to be the best out there by any means, AND I AM NOT POSTING THIS WITH THE INTENTION OF OFFENDING ANYONE!!!. But, Do not slide back on the seat, Sliding back on the seat screws up your center of gravity and makes it very very hard to balance the bike side to side. And believe it or not it also makes it harder to get the front wheel up and control it. That being said. You want to find the rpm where the bike is making the most power for which ever gear you intend on being in. stay in your normal riding position on the seat, and when you clutch the bike you want to give it a bit more throttle and slip the clutch. At the same time you are doing this you want the bike to compress the forks a bit so when you pull back on the bars and let go of the clutch (at the same time) the forks help you spring the front end up. Stay sitting straight, you don't have to focus your attention on trying to lean back as far as possible but you do not want to be pulling the bars to your chest like most newbies do. Stay in the throttle until the bike finds its balance point, You will realize this when you no longer feel any weight of the front end. Cover your rear brake and make little adjustments to the throttle. START SMALL!  Do a little wheelie until you feel comfortable, Then go a bit farther and a bit farther and so on and so forth. You do not want to go out there with it in your head that you are going to ride a mile long wheelie your first time. You WILL get hurt trying.

 

Be careful and start small. This is also just what I do, do this at YOUR OWN RISK!!!!

 

Heres a quick vid of me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3uWb9w7qlw

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Heres a better video for ya. This is my buddy on his Dr350. Watch closely and take note to his body language as he rides. And no he is not sitting all the way back on the seat, He has a backpack on so the back of the seat is covered making it look like it is all the way back... Also note he is not pulling the bars to his chest but at the same time he is not locking his arms. This position gives you a better sight range over the bars.. Just stay neutral on the bike. =)

 

Be safe and good luck!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S71rsTIM2M0

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