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Hello all...noob to the forum, and hoping you may be able to help with what is becoming a tough decision.

 

It has been literally decades since I've spent any time in the dirt.  Back in the day, I was screaming through the woods here in Michigan on an IT200.  Bark-busters were my friend, and I liked pushing things.

 

Since then, I've been on the streets with a variety of bikes ranging from a Kawasaki Concours to an SV650 vintage two-strokes (GT380 and RD350).  I've also "spread out" from a 165-pound kid to a 225-pound forty-something.

 

My two children will be getting their first bikes (PW50 and XR50), and I've decided to leave the world of dodging cagers to head back to the tracks and trails.  However, I have a feeling my requirements for a bike are resulting in what Human Resources people call "hunting a purple squirrel"...looking for a candidate that may not exist.

 

Here's what I'm hoping to satisfy:

  • Two-stroke rip when I want to go "play with the dads" in the 40+ Vet class races
  • Something that won't be a frustrating handful when slowing down enough to cow-poke with my children
  • Woods-capable with modifications...Eastern-style enduro conditions (swamp, logs, sand, tight trees, etc...)
  • Something I can rebuild myself in the garage inexpensively.  No FI...no shim-under-bucket four-strokes
  • Nothing so old that I need to order from Europe or out-bid dudes for pistons or plastics
  • Available on the Craigslist market in ugly-but-restorable condition for under $1500...max outlay of $2500 for bike, resto-parts, specialist tools and riding gear
  • Something that won't flat-out break under the aggressive hand of a 220-pound old porker
  • Able to go on a motocross track without self-destructing if my son decides he prefers that to the woods

I will have room for only one bike, and my budget point is strict.

 

I'm always one for a project...outside of my SV650S, I've done restorations (build from basket case) on every street bike I've ever owned.  I was considering a woods bike out of a mid-nineties CR250, but was convinced by others that it would never be happy when plodding in the fields with my kids between "adult-time" sessions.

 

So...any ideas from the crowd?  Whatever I end up purchasing, I'll make sure to post the restoration/rebuild threads (for mine and the kids) once work begins.

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any of the 2 smoker mx's should do. I'd go for a 250, check out recommendations for a flywheel weight to keep it tamed in the tight stuff, I'd also look in to a recluse if i were riding a 2smoke in the trees again...

 

I'd personally be looking for a CR250 or a YZ250

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So the warnings I was getting that a converted CR250 wouldn't want to "stay tame" at trail speeds with my kids is overblown?  The one thing I like about my two stroke street bikes is that they were still "streetable" when I didn't go into attack mode.  Unless I hear otherwise, I'll assume my concern is unwarranted.

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Here is a video of me and a friend lugging our 250 two strokes.  My friend is in front on a KX250 and I am recording on a YZ250.

 

I think this will work.  https://www.dropbox.com/s/bq5cbjga1lksust/lug.mp4   I doubt it will be in hi def...you have to download the file for that but you will get the point with 480.   1080p looks really good if you do want to download it.  It is only a 50 second clip so it doesn't take long.

 

I think the reason some people have the "light switch"  idea is from older two strokes with weird jetting so the bike switched from different lean/rich conditions so it felt like hey the bike isn't going anywhere and then all of a sudden BLAMO.

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Modern 2 strokes are much different than they used to be. With the right jetting, a mx 2 stroke with a powervalve (all of them) will be very "calm" feeling at lower rpm's....that being said, 2 strokes don't really enjoy "cruising" at one single throttle position, they get "lurchy". But if it was a bike that you liked, you could follow your kids around in 1st or 2nd gear with out any real issue.

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Don't rule out a KDX unless you are sure you'll end up on an MX track at some point. They are woods only but do much better at low speeds than any MX bike can. They are cheap and durable too.

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I've been looking for KDX200's as well, but I haven't been able to find a perimiter-frame model within 250 miles in my price point.  People who live in my area know their value in this terrain, and they're getting scarce here since going out of production.  I may see a few pop when the snow starts falling, but who wants to wait that long?

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And...I found it.  Just came across a '92 KDX250 with the suspension swapped out for '91 KX units.  Just needs a new piston and some TLC.

 

I'll make sure to photo-diary the entire process and put up a thread on the bike.

 

Thanks for the input everyone.

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