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First off i know ive written a few of these already but I'm just trying to find the absolute best bike for my needs. In a year or two im wanting to get into some actual racing (a lot of my friends have tracks in their backyards and we race). But I'm about 70% technical trails and the rest is flat ground in fields or on tracks. I would like to know which would suit me like pros/cons of each type of bike. I can handle any bike really because I have great throttle and clutch control and before my YZF I learned and still have my TT-R230 which is 250 lbs wet weight. So thats about the size of trail 450's. I already know stuff like 125 2t are bad for hill climbs specifically a YZ125 (which deters me away from these) but theyre super fun for tracks and fields. And a 250 2t are great for trails and stuff, specifically KTM's 250 exc. but I love the low thumper growl and theyre torque over a 2t. Or maybe just keep my yz250f for this stuff.. Idk i kindof want to try a 2 stroke now because I've heard theyre loads of fun! Just wondering which I should get for my situation and also my max spending $$$ is about $2000 so im good with 03-05ish models, etc. so I'm just really wondering which kind would suit my needs!

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Yes just got be on pipe right before the hill

HA that's not going to happen on my trails.. I may be at a max of 5-10 MPH right before the big hills and on one you come up a creek bed not even lying when I say this, 4 feet of straight upness! Lol it's like hitting a wall so you have to go into it and gun it then there's a hill near straight up.

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A 250 2t would probably suit you well, can lug all day if it's jetted correctly. On the KTMs you can change out a spring to change the "hit" of the powerband and there is also two different maps to choose from via a wire under the tank. I'm very happy with my 09.

Although for your budget I'm not sure if you could get an 07+ 250sx but I'd highly recommend saving up some more $$$ to get one, I love the bike.

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A 250 2t would probably suit you well, can lug all day if it's jetted correctly. On the KTMs you can change out a spring to change the "hit" of the powerband and there is also two different maps to choose from via a wire under the tank. I'm very happy with my 09.

Although for your budget I'm not sure if you could get an 07+ 250sx but I'd highly recommend saving up some more $$$ to get one, I love the bike.

the main one I was thinking was an 03ish KTM 250 exc. And what's the deal with the wire and spring? Edited by YZF_MX_rider

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the main one I was thinking was an 03ish KTM 250 exc. And what's the deal with the wire and spring?

Not sure about the earlier bikes, but my bike (2009 250sx) has 3 different springs that can be interchanged that change how the power valve acts, which affects the hit of the powerband. Under the tank, there is a wire you can unplug that changes the ignition to a "soft" map that calms down the bike quite a lot.. Someone else may be able to explain it better than I can, I've only had the bike for a couple weeks. I only paid 2500 for mine.

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Not sure about the earlier bikes, but my bike (2009 250sx) has 3 different springs that can be interchanged that change how the power valve acts, which affects the hit of the powerband. Under the tank, there is a wire you can unplug that changes the ignition to a "soft" map that calms down the bike quite a lot.. Someone else may be able to explain it better than I can, I've only had the bike for a couple weeks. I only paid 2500 for mine.

what would the kind of hit mean? Harder hit = more top end? lower hit = more down low? Also why would they put that wire there? Wouldn't you want more performance?

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what would the kind of hit mean? Harder hit = more top end? lower hit = more down low? Also why would they put that wire there? Wouldn't you want more performance?

I haven't experimented with the different springs, but for example I wouldn't want the hard hitting characteristics of a 50hp motocross bike if I'm in slick single track, those are the situations you would want to use the springs/map that deliver an easier or less aggressive hit, it's not a loss in performance by any means... Makes the sx motor feel more like an exc or xc. Basically softer powerband=more traction and control.

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I haven't experimented with the different springs, but for example I wouldn't want the hard hitting characteristics of a 50hp motocross bike if I'm in slick single track, those are the situations you would want to use the springs/map that deliver an easier or less aggressive hit, it's not a loss in performance by any means... Makes the sx motor feel more like an exc or xc. Basically softer powerband=more traction and control.

im looking for an exc.

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The 125 will be fine man just when u get to the hill be in first get it Reving kinda high right before the hill then try to get in the power band and If u can't no big deal I have climbed hills in 3rd gear pretty steep to and it'll bog but then u down shift

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