MoTo MaN 212 Posted November 10, 2015 So I am a intermediate rider I am 15 years old 5'7 and weigh 115. I currently ride trails fairly aggressively with a group of friends and next year I plan to start racing hare scrambles. I currently ride a 2011 kx250f i quite enjoy this bike but was wondering if I could become a more competitive rider on a 125 two stroke such as a kx125, yz125, cr125. I know genneraly people say 125s are a handful in tight one track but I'm not afraid to put the effort and time in to become good at riding one. Mainly I was considering these bikes because they are about 35 pounds lighter wich I feel could be great since I'm no huge guy. And less expensive maintenence is a real plus. I was wondering on your guys thoughts. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mikedabike Posted November 11, 2015 I just picked up a 125. I raced it last week out in the desert. I could ride it faster longer than my 450. There were some areas where the 450 would have been better but overall I dont think I was at a disadvantage. I am 6'4 225 without gear so if it would haul my but around I think you would be ok. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jay bird1138 My Ride Posted November 11, 2015 Yes! Get a 125 or maybe even look into 150s and maybe a 200. If I was riding and I knew I could possibly have problems that would cost thousands of dollars, I would have a lot less fun. I have zero experience with any of the bikes I listed but from what I've read: yz125 has most low end, 16 150sx hits super hard, and don't know much about the 200. Good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoTo MaN 212 Posted November 11, 2015 I have heard the 150 and 200 are good but only ktm makes them and my family would disown me if I ever bought one so they are out of the question. Also do you guys have experience with these bikes in technical terrain and on large hill climbs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BoxcarWilly My Rides (12) Posted November 12, 2015 I have heard the 150 and 200 are good but only ktm makes them and my family would disown me if I ever bought one so they are out of the question. Also do you guys have experience with these bikes in technical terrain and on large hill climbs I never understand brand haters. Good luck with a bike that doesn't suit your needs like the KTM does. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MoTo MaN 212 Posted November 12, 2015 I never understand brand haters. Good luck with a bike that doesn't suit your needs like the KTM does. that's why I posted this here so people could tell me if I would be making a good decision getting a new bike seems like I might just stick with what I have if ktm is the only brand the could give me a better suited bike for my needs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtrider 88 My Ride Posted November 12, 2015 Ah boy. The kx would do just fine. But for off road I would do at least a 150-200 cc 2 stroke. Maybe a 2006 and up yz125 and maybe a 144 big bore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtrider 88 My Ride Posted November 12, 2015 But then again . its not the bike but the rider. Bike helps tho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
offrd beatr Posted November 13, 2015 125 2 strokes aren't much fun on technical uphill single track. Clutch abuse. You can gear them to work in that stuff but then they top out at roughly walking pace. Stick with the 250. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jacoB1234 My Ride Posted November 13, 2015 I think a Ktm 150 would be slightly more competitive that a 125. They weight that same and are pretty much the same size. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brandon7711 Posted November 14, 2015 Ktm is the only brand that still makes off-road 2 strokes other than 250cc... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hedgehog Posted November 18, 2015 Ktm is the only brand that still makes off-road 2 strokes other than 250cc... That statement is not correct. Yamaha still makes a YZ 125 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mlatour Posted November 18, 2015 Ktm is the only brand that still makes off-road 2 strokes other than 250cc... Guessing you've never heard of BETA, Sherco, Gas-Gas... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brandon7711 Posted November 18, 2015 Guessing you've never heard of BETA, Sherco, Gas-Gas...My bad. Forgot about those. Very seldom do I see them for sale used so I hadn't even thought about it. Good bikes from what I hear but they aren't as common as ktms, at least not where I live Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brandon7711 Posted November 18, 2015 That statement is not correct. Yamaha still makes a YZ 125Since when is a yz125 an off-road bike. It's a motocross bike with motocross gearing/close ratio gearbox, 19" rear wheel, etc They can be made into woods bikes but not without some mods. In my statement I meant off-road bikes from the factory not converted mx bikes 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jay bird1138 My Ride Posted November 18, 2015 My bad. Forgot about those. Very seldom do I see them for sale used so I hadn't even thought about it. Good bikes from what I hear but they aren't as common as ktms, at least not where I liveThe only "exotic" bike I've ever seen by me is a gas gas last year. Saw a few betas when I went out west. I guess these darn Pennsylvanians are 5 years behind the rest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AddictedToBling Posted November 18, 2015 125 2 strokes aren't much fun on technical uphill single track. Clutch abuse. You can gear them to work in that stuff but then they top out at roughly walking pace. Stick with the 250. That's a slight contridiction Isn't it? How's abusing a clutch not fun . They (tight uphill ST's) can be a challenge but that's only more fun as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AddictedToBling Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Excuse my mates comontary. I let him use my Go-Pro. First timer . BTW. He wiped out over the same log last weekend . "Haha, fall over". I'd never ridden the track, had no clue what was on the other side. He set me up LOL. Was a hot day. 1st for the yr. Went from high teens to 34. My tunning was rich . Hence the smoke. BTW. It's an example of what a 144 with a heavy rider can do in tight tech ST. Not an example of how to ride a 144 . Shouldn't even be showing this. It was set to "Private" . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6th3iwl1goQ 1st mistake was taking my goggles off . "Can ride faster for longer". You bet. 3hrs in. I was having trouble keeping up in the 1st hr. Flat tires with Tu-Bliss. They weren't supposed to be flat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD0yOGoDgdQ Edited November 19, 2015 by AddictedToBling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEMI Posted November 19, 2015 get the 125 and hammer down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Hedgehog Posted November 19, 2015 Since when is a yz125 an off-road bike. It's a motocross bike with motocross gearing/close ratio gearbox, 19" rear wheel, etc They can be made into woods bikes but not without some mods. In my statement I meant off-road bikes from the factory not converted mx bikes I ride one all the time in the woods. How is what you are describing different than the KTM 125. Btw, MANY others do. Riddle me this, what do you need to do to one to ride it in the woods? Other than a skid plate some bark busters and bigger tank......it does not need a thing...other than someone that knows how to ride. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites