Thumpper i actually like the north loop. If you are able to carry speed the whoops are fine (usually in 3rd or 4th on the 250f on that loop)...and deeper sand really only becomes a problem when people let it win. Maybe get a lil squirrely then get more timid...more timid...worse time in it. Anywaya, just rode north loop tonight. Didnt get on the trail til bout 720 and it was still rainin...but with just 2 of us and no stops, was still quick/fun.