Special nut removal?

[rutz]

Hi guys, I'm in the middle of doing my first full rebuild on my 06 crf450r and I had gotten to almost being able to split the cases wit just a few more gears to remove, one of which having this nut holding it on? I tried a screwdriver and a mallot to try to tap it open but that isn't working, is there another way without having to buy a special socket? IMG_5010.jpeg

Edited May 10, 2016 by rutz

[ThrustWasher]

Why would you not buy the socket it's 8 bucks and will make life so much easier! Rockymountain will have it to you by wednesday morning if you order it now!

[cdf450]

put a nickle between the gears.  tap it with a screwdriver and hammer.  simple.  done it dozens of times.

[jblob]

just buy the right tool for the job it is cheap. and yeah a penny between the gears works great to hold it

[jblob]

you cant retorque it to spec with a screwdriver and hammer. buy the right tool a dirtbike isnt the place to cheap out

Edited May 10, 2016 by jblob

[HRC27]

As said, Motion Pro (probably Tusk too, haven't checked) makes a special socket. You can buy a gear holder but yeah, the penny works fine.

[jblob]

cheap, doesnt ship from china so it will be a few days instead of weeks. will work for what you need.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Oil-Filter-Clutch-Hub-Spanner-20mm-24mm-Counter-Balancer-4-tooth-socket-Honda-/171257524016?nav=SEARCH

[Piney Woods]

just buy the right tool for the job it is cheap. and yeah a penny between the gears works great to hold it

cdf450 says you are a cheapskate. ?

[jblob]

heck yeah i can do it 5 times with a fresh penny for his 1 nickel. he must be livin large

[rutz]

Damn money isn't the problem, I was just trying to get this done as soon as possible and didn't want it sitting apart for any longer than I needed to.

[ThrustWasher]

Damn money isn't the problem, I was just trying to get this done as soon as possible and didn't want it sitting apart for any longer than I needed to.

I would never pound on that nut with a screwdriver and a hammer, Once you get it off how are you suppose to torque it back down to the proper torque specs? Not to mention there are seals and bearings behind that, That could be damaged from the lateral force applied to it from pounding on it, Or worse you could hit it hard enough and slip off and drive the screwdriver through the engine case. I understand your frustration but you should have foreseen this before you began your tear down! 

Edited May 10, 2016 by PelvicThruster

[ThrustWasher]

Damn money isn't the problem, I was just trying to get this done as soon as possible and didn't want it sitting apart for any longer than I needed to.

Nows a good time to clean everything you have off so far and inventory it, I clean everything and put it inside big plastic bags to keep dirt and dust off of it until i'm ready for installation!

Edited May 10, 2016 by PelvicThruster

[rutz]

Yes that is all very true, I never put too much hammering to the nut as I did fear harming something, but that was what was just suggested to me by someone else. This is also my first Honda 4 stroke rebuild it rebuild in general so this was something I was not expecting and overlooked, I ordered the socket this morning and it will hopefully be here by the end of the week. Thanks

[jblob]

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Edited May 10, 2016 by jblob

[Fenmore]

One of Honda's worst designs, luckily they did away with it in 2009.  Makes no sense.

[jblob]

makes sense to honda. if you dont have the special tool you are more likely to take it to a dealer for service

[Fenmore]

makes sense to honda. if you dont have the special tool you are more likely to take it to a dealer for service

yea I know that was probably their initial thinking...then the internet came along and ruined that.  lol.

[RichM1983]

Just a heads up I didn't see you mention if you got the special tool to pull the the flywheel. Better add it to the list or you'll be waiting on the mail man again. 

[cdf450]

Not to mention there are seals and bearings behind that, That could be damaged from the lateral force applied to it from pounding on it, Or worse you could hit it hard enough and slip off and drive the screwdriver through the engine case. I understand your frustration but you should have foreseen this before you began your tear down! 

lol really???  this isnt rocket science here you guys.

[ThrustWasher]

lol really???  this isnt rocket science here you guys.

If that's the case then why didn't you remove the flywheel correctly the first time? You should know first hand about using the right tool for the job bro!

Edited May 16, 2016 by PelvicThruster