Thanks RIDEPATE... I'm 100% sure it's true!! BIGBLOKE... I agree that the CRF is lighter and a bit more manageable when the going gets tight...just a bit though..But I think the "areas" that Honda chose to shave the pounds is what will prove down the road to be the most problematic for this model year. COWBOYONA426... Yup..The KTM is a great bike..A guy we just started riding with has the 520..They're expensive to buy, to fix..and at times parts availability comes into play..He's waiting on the 03's..mainly the CRF and Yamie's YZ450.. AREN'T WE ALL!!!