12 hours ago, ballisticexchris said: I did get off topic a lot. in the spirit of staying on the subject, here is what I do. I no longer race but set all my bikes up like i still race. I hate breaking down on the trail On all KTM's this is a must! You might go 10 years with nothing happening then one day you end up with no brakes in the worst spot. This is a tip from my District 37 racing buddy after losing my pads in the desert. I used to use riveted chains only. I do so many gearing changes these days I've opted to use clips and silicone them. I saw a neat trick on ADV rider where the guy safety wired his clip. Don't do it. Turns out it's 100% bullshit! I tried it and it lasted a few revolutions of the wheel before breaking off. For extreme rides in the rocks where I need real traction I groove my tires. They will chunk a bit but stick like velcro. Best to do it on worn out tire. Lots of zip ties wherever they will fit and I always carry a tube of Quicksteel. Steel zip ties when near exhaust. Lots of zip ties to keep bike together! For temps over 300 degrees I opted to line my 4 gallon tank. It actually works. I only get vapor lock and boil gas once or twice a ride and only when temps are hovering in the 300 degree range. Flip your clevis pin for easy brake arm removal (so you can bend it back in shape) and don't forget the brake snake. I am all about enjoying my ride and get the bike going quickly when it breaks. Got some great tips there and some great pictures.. I like that silicone link.. hey more the better.. As far as 2 vs 4 stroke and extreme mods whatever those may be.. hey whatever.. .just put whatever mod for whatever bike you ride...For sure what works well for one guy still wont work best for another.. but it's good to see what others do and maybe it is a good fit for another rider.... both 2 and 4 stroke are great and still an evolution that is continuing...I mean in endurocross for ex.. I would have sworn that once the 300 2t's came online for Beta I did not expect that guys would go back to a 4 stroke 350 for endurocross ...but it did. This isn't to me a thread with one direction for one specific kind of discipline of riding. I figure there are specific extreme mods that are This just started for me when I saw that one enduro21 article with one guys extreme setup strictly for extreme enduro on a high level. .. like the gel packs on the handlebar.. it's a good idea but I wouldn't do it for me.. I think my klim pants pockets might be a better choice.. I'm not fit enough to race for many hours and be on the pegs the whole time type of thing. Actually a tiny pause might be in order as the hard long races it's about pacing yourself , being calm, not making many mistakes and recovering..breathing is a big one and stretching your energy level toward the level and length of time of the race.. A sprint enduro is different than a hare and hounds around here for instance. I really like the cool chainsaw pics too! Locally I see guys not going that route but putting little chain saws in their backpacks..and there are a wide variety of machetes, cane knives and little portable fold out saws.. even little picks etc.. again.. that's for another kind of extreme and for another worthy discipline... to keep our trails clear..and to cut trails..for the guys in the wooded and grassy areas. Every place is not the same so it's interesting to see what everyone rides.. from desert to sand to mountains and snow to mud and grass and nothing but rocks.. to jungle and beautiful woods.. it's all great!!!