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I found a mint 2000 XR200R for sale, but I have a question about suspension travel before I drive out to buy it for my son.  Somewhere here I saw a list of suspension travel by year (Chuck?) that notes a substantial drop in the year 2000.  But everywhere else on line says there was no change at all from years 1992-2002 (cycle chaos, dirt rider, bikez specs).  No change in suspension travel, and no change in seat height after 1992.   Where has anyone seen the published specs showing this year 2000 change?  I have googled and just can't find it....

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I believe 92 was the big change for the xr200r with 1981-83 having the most rear suspension travel. 86-91 having the most front suspension travel and the 81-83 having the highest ground clearance

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Here is where Chuck said that there were TWO suspension reductions in the XR200... once in 1992, and again in 2000.  But I can't find any published info from Honda or any bike spec pages that confirms suspension was ever reduced in 2000.  Everything I see on line shows the exact same seat height and suspension for all of the late model XR200's from 1992 thru 2002.   Hoping someone can confirm the numbers for a 2000 model year XR200, and where that information is posted on a bike spec sheet.   Thanks!

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On 4/11/2017 at 6:25 PM, Adam Benson said:

I found a mint 2000 XR200R for sale, but I have a question about suspension travel before I drive out to buy it for my son.  Somewhere here I saw a list of suspension travel by year (Chuck?) that notes a substantial drop in the year 2000.  But everywhere else on line says there was no change at all from years 1992-2002 (cycle chaos, dirt rider, bikez specs).  No change in suspension travel, and no change in seat height after 1992.   Where has anyone seen the published specs showing this year 2000 change?  I have googled and just can't find it....

 

On 4/12/2017 at 6:50 AM, Adam Benson said:

Here is where Chuck said that there were TWO suspension reductions in the XR200... once in 1992, and again in 2000.  But I can't find any published info from Honda or any bike spec pages that confirms suspension was ever reduced in 2000.  Everything I see on line shows the exact same seat height and suspension for all of the late model XR200's from 1992 thru 2002.   Hoping someone can confirm the numbers for a 2000 model year XR200, and where that information is posted on a bike spec sheet.   Thanks!

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That was an early post based on info in a Clymers manual. In a later post I corrected that based on info from researching Honda part numbers for those years.

So suspension travel for 84-91 is the same with a few fork parts changing during that time. And 93-02 suspension travel is the same. And most of the fork parts are the same 84-02. 

Here are the part numbers for the 84-02 forks. The 86 change was basically a part number change on the damper rods and the big change was 93. 

  • Damper rods:
  • 84-85  damper rod (pipe, seat)  51440-KK0-004
  • 86-91  damper rod (pipe, seat)  51440-KT0-671
  • 93-02  damper rod (pipe, seat)  51440-KT0-691
  •  
  • Stanchions:
  • 84-91 Stanchion  (pipe)  51410-KK0-004
  • 93-02 Stanchion  (pipe)  51410-KT0-691
  •  
  • Sliders:
  • 84-02 R Slider (case)  51420-KK0-014
  • 84-02 L Slider (case)  51520-KK0-014
  •  
  • Springs:
  • 84-85  51401-KK0-004 & 51402-KK0-004 (two springs each leg)
  • 86-88  51401-KT0-671 single two rate springs each leg
  • 90-91  51401-KT0-831
  • 93-02  51401-KT0-691
  •  
  • Rebound Springs:
  • 84-02  51411-KK0-004
  •  
  • Spacers:
  • 94-02  51402-ML0-004 (per Honda but I don't know why the travel changed in 93 and the spacer was added in 94?)
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Picked up the 2000 XR200R for my boy from PA this weekend.  Very clean, from original owner and garage kept all this time!!  Going through the paperwork notes about suspension changes to find out what has been changed, my understanding is not stock from that blue rear spring.   New tank stickers are already on order.

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The blue spring is probably a 90-95 XR250R, but that spring will fit the shock. The 93+ had shorter suspension, and less travel, than the earlier. So might be worthwhile to see if the shock is non standard and if it has a reservoir.  Here is a pic of 86-91 and 93-02. Fully extended the 86-91 forks measured 33 3/4" from the top to the center of the axle, the later were shorter.

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Where are you located Adam? I have a rear shock and forks off a 1981 I will give you. The rear is longer travel with external reservoir, fronts are longer travel.

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Daytripper, I am in Baltimore MD area.  At some point would love to have the taller suspension!   Are you Washington State, or Washington DC?

 

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I have the original XR200 manual with the bike, and the notes inside explain some of the changes made.  Here is what it says:    1 mm oversize high compression Wiseco piston (the bike definitely has some grunt!), a Works Performance shock/spring combo setup for a 195lb "spririted play and novice MX".  And Lowe Racing full length fork springs 0.40kg with 1" PVC spacers added.

I don't know if this combo raised things at all.  Chuck - when you measure fully-extended, I presume you mean with the bike up on a stand and all the sag out of the forks?

 

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Yes fully extended, hook the tape on the top of the fork tube and measure to the center of the axle. The late forks should be about 1 1/2" shorter.

Works shocks are good as the OEM shocks on the late XR200Rs are junk (like the CRF150/230s).

Your bike may be stock height which does provide a lower seat than the 86-91 bikes but less suspension travel. IMO a low seat is a real asset for some types of riding.

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Washington state, about as far apart as we could be. Sounds like you have some very nice upgrades. And chuck is right, the lower seat height will be an asset it tight technical stuff.

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