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13 minutes ago, M1Garand said:

Of corse there is, He has a vagina 

Cooper has shown himself to be a bit of a hot head in the past but the kid has manned the eff up anytime he was really tested.  He didn't pull off because hes a quitter or doezn't want to do well. 

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Cooper has shown himself to be a bit of a hot head in the past but the kid has manned the eff up anytime he was really tested.  He didn't pull off because hes a quitter or doezn't want to do well. 

He is paid to ride that bike regardless of what he thinks about it.
Pulling off because he doesn't like the bike is a dick move.

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2 minutes ago, M1Garand said:


He is paid to ride that bike regardless of what he thinks about it.
Pulling off because he doesn't like the bike is a dick move.
 

What if tgey tried a different setup and he felt it was unsafe?  Without knowing all the details we can only speculate.  But it's pretty fair to say that in the past Cooper has shown himself to not be a quitter or one to bow out because he could.  Im not saying that isnt a possibility but lets be real, is it more likely cooper is just a puss or the bike has issues?  What does the past tell us about which one of those is more likely to be true

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6 minutes ago, KTMRider4Life said:

What if tgey tried a different setup and he felt it was unsafe?  Without knowing all the details we can only speculate.  But it's pretty fair to say that in the past Cooper has shown himself to not be a quitter or one to bow out because he could.  Im not saying that isnt a possibility but lets be real, is it more likely cooper is just a puss or the bike has issues?  What does the past tell us about which one of those is more likely to be true

I am going with Webb is a puss.  

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6 minutes ago, KTMRider4Life said:

What if tgey tried a different setup and he felt it was unsafe?  Without knowing all the details we can only speculate.  But it's pretty fair to say that in the past Cooper has shown himself to not be a quitter or one to bow out because he could.  Im not saying that isnt a possibility but lets be real, is it more likely cooper is just a puss or the bike has issues?  What does the past tell us about which one of those is more likely to be true

If your having a bad day, you don't just go home. You back if off and finish it up 

there was another guy out there riding without a front brake

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2 minutes ago, RMZ819 said:

I am going with Webb is a puss.  

Or.... the bike really does suck.

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1 minute ago, ThumpNRed said:

Or.... the bike really does suck.

It is not the bike. Bikes are not difference makers in 2017 in the 450 class.

You are what your results say you are. Period end of story. 

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4 minutes ago, M1Garand said:

If your having a bad day, you don't just go home. You back if off and finish it up 

there was another guy out there riding without a front brake

Yeah!!!!!!!!!  But he wasn't riding a Yamaha:banghead:

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It's working well enough to the point he qualified 4th and Glen Helen and 4th at Hangtown.  What changed during the race?  It was the same in supercross where he even qualified 1st a time or two.

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10 minutes ago, M1Garand said:

If your having a bad day, you don't just go home. You back if off and finish it up 

there was another guy out there riding without a front brake

An ill handling unpredictable bike can be more dangerous than one with a known issue like no front brake.  How many times have people broke a lever and kept riding.   

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6 minutes ago, RMZ819 said:

It is not the bike. Bikes are not difference makers in 2017 in the 450 class.

You are what your results say you are. Period end of story. 

It does seem that bikes are not difference makers on the winning end of the results sheet, but the blue 450s have not been part of that conversation. The Yamaha is different so maybe it is a difference maker.

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17 minutes ago, RMZ819 said:

It is not the bike. Bikes are not difference makers in 2017 in the 450 class.

You are what your results say you are. Period end of story. 

^Man do we need more of this in the world or what^^^^^^^

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An ill handling unpredictable bike can be more dangerous than one with a known issue like no front brake.  How many times have people broke a lever and kept riding.   

You can spin anyway you want, bottom line is what he did was very unprofessional.
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12 minutes ago, M1Garand said:


You can spin anyway you want, bottom line is what he did was very unprofessional.

Without all the info I'd say you're jumping to a conclusion.  You could be right, but you could be wrong. 

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22 minutes ago, M1Garand said:


You can spin anyway you want, bottom line is what he did was very unprofessional.

Agreed. He could have easily put in a controlled ride and had that "team meeting" in private afterwards. I believe the issue with the bike is real but acting unprofessionally never is a good thing. The folks signing the checks take permanent note of that. All of them.

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2 minutes ago, YHGEORGE said:

Agreed. He could have easily put in a controlled ride and had that "team meeting" in private afterwards. I believe the issue with the bike is real but acting unprofessionally never is a good thing. The folks signing the checks take permanent note of that. All of them.

If you want out of your contract tbat could be a good thing...   

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17 minutes ago, KTMRider4Life said:

If you want out of your contract tbat could be a good thing...   

Why didn't he go off-the-farm during SX if he wanted out so bad? Maybe Yam should have punted on CW and stuck with JM instead. How about a trade???;) If CW thinks he is going to get KR money with Honda or KTM he might be getting ahead of himself. KR won outdoors on that Zuke and was a proven winner on bigs and had real marketing draw. CW hardly did better than Malcolm in SX and MS missed a lot and had way less factory support

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