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I bought a set of ASV F3 shorty levers for my XR250R from ATVGalaxy on ebay for $128.95.  They came in a bubble wrap lined USPS priority envelope and the levers are in an unsealed plastic package that's hacked up at the top like someone took scissors to it and it's completely unlabeled except for an embossed "ASV" on the side.  No stickers or anything but there appears to be residue of a sticker on the plastic.  The dust covers are in a separate plastic bag with a UPS label.  The onlly paperwork is a black & white paper with information about F3 and the warranty.  There's some defects in the aluminum but nothing that's major except on the brake lever there is some strange polishing marks that don't look normal.  Can anyone relay some info about their ASV packaging and the appearance and any experience with ATVGalaxy?  I see on a YZ forum some guys had nothing but praise for that seller several  years ago.

 

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8 hours ago, Midge said:

Maybe get in contact with the seller then :excuseme:

Yes, first I'm trying to find out how normal this is...for all I know this is how all ASVs are packaged.  I haven't put ASVs on my bikes before and I haven't closely inspected bikes with ASVs.  Before I go making accusations it would be nice to know if all ASVs have those polishing marks and if the box is supposed to be labeled.

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Theyre packaged how ASV packs them...yes...and I see the form for the three year warranty...that means theyre new...if it was a refurb, they would NOT include the FACTORY warranty. You got an old set if it was less than two bills. 

One thing tho, Ive never seen a clutch perch with ASV engraved in it. Ill call the owner in a bit and ask. Minor. But Im not an assembler nor employee so it could be...but Ive have hundreds of perches through my hands and never seen an engraved clutch perch. Doesnt mean it isnt done.  Ill call the owner in an hour and ask...

But who cares? If you gotta factory warranty...you could send everything back DIRECTLY TO ASV and get a brand new FROM ASV WAREHOUSE f3 set thats never been on a bike. You see? This is why I doubt theyre fake. That warranty is not.

The defects are from packaging and shipping. Theres no damaged moving parts. Youre good to go romp!

Enjoy them. F3s are the OG blade!

Ask me any questions and come to me first before ATV galaxy and Ill get you anything that you need. Which will be nothing cause they last. Keep springs clean and greased.

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8 minutes ago, notoriousE-R-I-C said:

Theyre packaged how ASV packs them...yes...and I see the form for the three year warranty...that means theyre new...if it was a refurb, they would NOT include the FACTORY warranty. You got an old set if it was less than two bills. 

One thing tho, Ive never seen a clutch perch with ASV engraved in it. Ill call the owner in a bit and ask. Minor. But Im not an assembler nor employee so it could be...but Ive have hundreds of perches through my hands and never seen an engraved clutch perch. Doesnt mean it isnt done.  Ill call the owner in an hour and ask...

But who cares? If you gotta factory warranty...you could send everything back DIRECTLY TO ASV and get a brand new FROM ASV WAREHOUSE f3 set thats never been on a bike. You see? This is why I doubt theyre fake. That warranty is not.

The defects are from packaging and shipping. Theres no damaged moving parts. Youre good to go romp!

Enjoy them. F3s are the OG blade!

Ask me any questions and come to me first before ATV galaxy and Ill get you anything that you need. Which will be nothing cause they last. Keep springs clean and greased.

OK cool.  Well this is where I was suspicious, about that that warranty.  If they're selling refurbs, fakes, returns, or "factory seconds" as new and want to make it look good, it's possibly not a warranty but just a photo copy of a piece of paper.  See what I mean?  I mean I'm just talking out my a**, for all I know ATVGalaxy is a great place, but judging from this packaging they leave a lot to be desired.  Also from what I see from a google image search, there are no ASVs packaged without an ASV cardboard piece inside the box.  I still think this is a little weird.

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And a refurb is brand new pretty much. As long as its not scratched to hell(blade, knee or perch) all the springs, bearings, spacers, hardware is new. Thats an ASV refurb. But an ASV refurb would never have a warranty. And if atv galaxy wants ASVs again they would never print a fake warranty. If they did itd be found out about fast and put to an end. This business is ran well. The owners wife runs ish with an iron fist...that would never happen.

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11 minutes ago, notoriousE-R-I-C said:

And a refurb is brand new pretty much. As long as its not scratched to hell(blade, knee or perch) all the springs, bearings, spacers, hardware is new. Thats an ASV refurb. But an ASV refurb would never have a warranty. And if atv galaxy wants ASVs again they would never print a fake warranty. If they did itd be found out about fast and put to an end. This business is ran well. The owners wife runs ish with an iron fist...that would never happen.

Yes, understood.  But I didn't pay for a refurb.  ATVGalaxy is promoting that they are an "authorized ASV dealer", which is one reason I bought from them.  Just going by the weird packaging, I wouldn't buy from ATVGalaxy again, but if they are real ASVs with a warranty I will keep them.  Seems weird that ASV would want an authorized dealer shipping stuff out like this (without any kind of labeling, unlike every other package I see on google).  Thanks for the info.

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I sent the pictures to ASV and I just called them and the guy said he got my email and forwarded it to a manager.  He said ATVGalaxy is an authorized dealer, but the packaging is highly irregular and not normal.  He said something is definitely weird in that case and they are looking into it, as it should have had the ASV labels and card inside the box at the very least.  He did say the warranty is definitely good and they are legit levers.  Sounds like those guys have their act together.

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ASVs packaging has a label

Its a rectangle thin cardboard as big as that plastic rectangle. Set on top of the foam, underneath the plastic lid.

What you paid for was warranty. So if youre still doubting its a refurb, get in touch with ASV. Talk to Arvin.

Just get new ones. Thats what machined aluminum looks like. They dont look like theyve been ridden. Refurbs have been ridden, broken, repaired and resold. Your sets too crisp to be a refurb. But you have a factory warranty so you can get a brand new set directly from factory instead of a third party who doesnt sell things for months.

Besides, you got it cheaper than a brand new warrantied f3 set. If it came directly from ASV. Theyve probably had it for too long and its how they sell, make em cheaper. 

Holler if you need anything 

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1 hour ago, notoriousE-R-I-C said:

 

Holler if you need anything 

OK thanks

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Maybe email ATV galaxy. Tell them the package was missing its label. Its a thin cardboard insert. Black. With white ASV and F3 letters. Then that warranty paper is under that. Thats ASVs foam and box for sure.

But tell them..."Man I was sketched out. Ive heard of fake ASVs and the warranty looks like a copy (although you expect it to be printed on gold? ASV has the same printer paper as everyone else!) But concern is legit. Its not like YOU know from personal experience. But just say how you were concerned and had to go through alot to confirm their authenticity. I mean sure you could've just been trippin but you didnt want to try to exercise the warranty a year layer and get turned down cause theyre fake. Thats not what you paid for. You paid for an ASV product. From an ASV dealer. That means ASV sends directly to them. It should have its legit packaging. And its not legit cause Ive personally packed 1000s of those boxes. And those labels are as big as the box and are printed up on a big 3'x4' sheet of it. And Ive cut each label out. They have those big papers cutters they had in art class. Ive personally packed boxes for ATV galaxy more than likely in my day. And with his wife running the show. There isnt anything missing believe that. Uh uh. Thats why I dont work there! She dont like me! I do the race prep on their racers bikes. So Im the owners employee not an ASV company employee.

So thats ATV galaxy losing the label. And thats all this was. But youre right. Youre the customer. So what my point is, is email them and fanagle a discount on your next purchase if they want your business again. Dont be a dick. But this is very true. Its not over a lot of money but its about the thousands you wouldve spent there have they not lost your business. Maybe ask for help with it to voice it more professionally. But it doesn't hurt to try. I am this A hole in the industry and everyone knows it. 

Do it and tell me if you get 25% off your next purchase!

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On 6/6/2017 at 11:51 AM, notoriousE-R-I-C said:

Maybe email ATV galaxy. Tell them the package was missing its label. Its a thin cardboard insert. Black. With white ASV and F3 letters. Then that warranty paper is under that. Thats ASVs foam and box for sure.

But tell them..."Man I was sketched out. Ive heard of fake ASVs and the warranty looks like a copy (although you expect it to be printed on gold? ASV has the same printer paper as everyone else!) But concern is legit. Its not like YOU know from personal experience. But just say how you were concerned and had to go through alot to confirm their authenticity. I mean sure you could've just been trippin but you didnt want to try to exercise the warranty a year layer and get turned down cause theyre fake. Thats not what you paid for. You paid for an ASV product. From an ASV dealer. That means ASV sends directly to them. It should have its legit packaging. And its not legit cause Ive personally packed 1000s of those boxes. And those labels are as big as the box and are printed up on a big 3'x4' sheet of it. And Ive cut each label out. They have those big papers cutters they had in art class. Ive personally packed boxes for ATV galaxy more than likely in my day. And with his wife running the show. There isnt anything missing believe that. Uh uh. Thats why I dont work there! She dont like me! I do the race prep on their racers bikes. So Im the owners employee not an ASV company employee.

So thats ATV galaxy losing the label. And thats all this was. But youre right. Youre the customer. So what my point is, is email them and fanagle a discount on your next purchase if they want your business again. Dont be a dick. But this is very true. Its not over a lot of money but its about the thousands you wouldve spent there have they not lost your business. Maybe ask for help with it to voice it more professionally. But it doesn't hurt to try. I am this A hole in the industry and everyone knows it. 

Do it and tell me if you get 25% off your next purchase!

I talked to Mike at ATV Galaxy.  Told him what ASV said and he gave me $20 off next purchase.  Pretty sweet.  I installed the F3s and rode about 125 miles in the mountains last weekend.  Love those levers.  I wish the brake could be pulled in a little more, I have the adjustment screw all the way out and it's still out a little too far for my fingers so it's not as easy as I'd like to negotiate the sensitivity of the brakes that far out, but it works.  That ride really made me hate the suspension as I talked about in another thread before this ride.  I definitely need to work on that, my arms felt like I was running a jackhammer all weekend last Monday.

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Sweet! Springs for YOUR body is the first step.

What do you mean with the brake? The lever extended out to stretchy fingertips isnt putting enough pressure? So instead of levers 2" from grip, they're 4" from grip? Longer pull, but doesn't feel like enough? Whens the last time your master was rebuilt? How new are your copper washers? Anneal them for free .with stove or blowtorch. And a nissin master rebuild kit is like $20. How fresh are the pads? How close to minimum thickness is your rotor? Cause theres ASV racebikes all the way down to a 65cc and that kid cant reach more than 2" off his grip. 

Good job. Glad you dig them! They are the shizz

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3 minutes ago, notoriousE-R-I-C said:

Sweet! Springs for YOUR body is the first step.

What do you mean with the brake? The lever extended out to stretchy fingertips isnt putting enough pressure? So instead of levers 2" from grip, they're 4" from grip? Longer pull, but doesn't feel like enough? Whens the last time your master was rebuilt? How new are your copper washers? Anneal them for free .with stove or blowtorch. And a nissin master rebuild kit is like $20. How fresh are the pads? How close to minimum thickness is your rotor? Cause theres ASV racebikes all the way down to a 65cc and that kid cant reach more than 2" off his grip. 

Good job. Glad you dig them! They are the shizz

No it's nothing crazy like I can't reach the brake.  It's just about at the max where I would ever want it for my short fingers.  In a perfect world I'd want it pulled in maybe about 3/8"-1/2" more so more of my finger gets around it.  I just got the bike a few weeks back and didn't have time to do any major work on it, so I have no idea about when any work was done.  Judging by the air filter condition (look at the pic in another thread), the loose chain, nearly flat tires, and a couple other weird things I'd say it's been a while.  The pads looked ok and the brake fluid is clean.  One of the first things I'm going to do when I have time is change the pads to something not as grippy and replace the fluid anyway.  Before that mountain ride I had to prioritize what I could do in the time I had, so it was replacing the horrible levers it had, air filter, oil/filter change, tires, bars, grips, etc.  The brakes worked well so I didn't touch anything yet.  I will be doing that and the suspension next.  I'll take a look at the stuff you mentioned.

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Go oem on brake pads. 

Universal bars and Spider grips are ASV. 

Tires, get DOT tires if youll be on roads.

Oil, rotella t5 15-40.

UNI air filter. Clean it with 8oz of gasoline and a nickel size of filter oil. And itll last forever.

Check your valves. Easy to set right if needed.

Your brakes, to me sound like pressure is not where it should be. But if you dont see leaks...Id anneal the copper washers and put in NEW fluid. Dot 4. And then feel. A new to you bike master cylinder rebuild (front and back) is usually a for sure thing with me...you WANT to be able to stop. Street, desert, and everything inbetween. Like, you gotta new chain right? 

Well figure out your pressure issue.

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Something else I also thought of. You have stock brake lines? They soften up and flex letting pressure off elsewhere than AT the caliper pistons. Maybe upgrade to steel lines. Core moto has $100 front and back sets. Or just get any steel line long enough at a junkyard.

Then youll feel more response at the lever.

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4 hours ago, notoriousE-R-I-C said:

Go oem on brake pads. 

Universal bars and Spider grips are ASV. 

Tires, get DOT tires if youll be on roads.

Oil, rotella t5 15-40.

UNI air filter. Clean it with 8oz of gasoline and a nickel size of filter oil. And itll last forever.

Check your valves. Easy to set right if needed.

Your brakes, to me sound like pressure is not where it should be. But if you dont see leaks...Id anneal the copper washers and put in NEW fluid. Dot 4. And then feel. A new to you bike master cylinder rebuild (front and back) is usually a for sure thing with me...you WANT to be able to stop. Street, desert, and everything inbetween. Like, you gotta new chain right? 

Well figure out your pressure issue.

I put the pro taper se henry/reed bend bars on there with pillow top grips.  I liked the henry/reed on my 200 but on the 250 they felt like they didn't have enough sweep when I first put them on.  I really liked them on that mountain ride though, but I'm still thinking maybe a little more sweep would be nice.  I couldn't find the Dunlop D606 tires in 110/100-18 size, so I got a rear DOT 90 off/10 on from the local shop that they recommended (can't remember the brand now) because I didn't have time to mess around online.  It's got a nice tread pattern to it but it's really strange because you can slide out easy when you try, but it seems to do pretty well otherwise especially on steep hill climbs.  Seems on the side treads it slips around more than a regular tire, but it's pretty predictable.  I've been using Rotella T5 on both the 200 and the 250 for about 6 months.  The first thing I did was put on an Uni filter...look at the pic in the other thread, the old filter was destroyed, that was one thing I overlooked before I bought it because I was busy looking at all the other stuff that wasn't adjusted.  Re:the brakes - I can stop on a dime, especially with the fronts.  Whatever pads are on there have very little slip.  I'm thinking about it when I'm next to a 500 foot near-vertical drop when I'm coming up to a corner.  Would be nice to have a little more play in the lever, I'll order a rebuild kit and try what you're suggesting.

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