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On 11/20/2017 at 8:01 PM, CelticDude said:

Then you also read this: The forks were a bit harsh in the rocks so I had Buck (Suspension By Buck)  redo the valving.  Once I did that and set the shock race sag at 3" it works awesome.    Buck is not only a great mechanic and suspension specialist, he is also one of the fastest offroad riders in AMA District 36! :thumbsup:

I think the point giant is attempting to make is that if you still need preload set at 3in the forks may still need work. 3in puts huge leverage on the forks and can introduce other issues. But in the end if you are happy and confident in the handling with that setup the numbers really don't matter. Susp is a very personal thing.  

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Most of the articles about rear shock sag recommend 3 -1/2" to 4".  I sincerely doubt that dropping the sag to 3" will put huge leverage on the forks and other issues.  I don't even know what that means.  All that it really means is that the rear shock will begin moving at a slightly higher value.  You can crank the preload on any rear shock spring down until you get to the point of coil bind at full compression without any problem.  Except it will probably make your butt hurt.  :lol:

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13 hours ago, CelticDude said:

Most of the articles about rear shock sag recommend 3 -1/2" to 4".  I sincerely doubt that dropping the sag to 3" will put huge leverage on the forks and other issues.  I don't even know what that means.  All that it really means is that the rear shock will begin moving at a slightly higher value.  You can crank the preload on any rear shock spring down until you get to the point of coil bind at full compression without any problem.  Except it will probably make your butt hurt.  :lol:

Wow! I had to read this several times and still WOW! Nothing you posted here is correct. I would go further into it but since you're sooo far off I don't think it will sink in. Might suggest reading a suspension set-up manual before posting again.

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On 11/20/2017 at 2:42 PM, GP said:

Amazing they designed and make their own shock.  WP should be ashamed!  What is it like, are service parts specific? 

I believe parts are specific to their shock. Certainly things like seal heads and possibly o-rings. I'm sure you could get shims that cross over quite easily however. The design of the shock is based of of a works Showa shock I believe.

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On 8/10/2017 at 5:55 AM, motoxgiant said:

Electric start and 6 speed transmissions are coming ... slowly ...

I hope this is true!  Please please gimme a 6 speed electric start 2 stroke!  That isn't orange... with an aluminum perimeter frame.

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TM 2 stroke Enduromodells (NOT MX models )will have fuelinjected engines and E-start 2019.  Not sure about 6 speed tranny. 

/Klas

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14 hours ago, magpie5 said:

I hope this is true!  Please please gimme a 6 speed electric start 2 stroke!  That isn't orange... with an aluminum perimeter frame.

Why the perimeter frame??

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5 hours ago, weantright said:

Why the perimeter frame??

personal preference.  I like having a fuel tank that doesn't have to straddle the frame.  Allows easier use of all usable fuel without having to tip your bike over to get the fuel on the side that the petcock is.  Also provides a rigid structure to hold your tank.  Looks really cool.  my 2c.

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On 3/14/2018 at 11:30 AM, Klas Sweden said:

TM 2 stroke Enduromodells (NOT MX models )will have fuelinjected engines and E-start 2019.  Not sure about 6 speed tranny. 

/Klas

All of the 2-stroke Enduro models, including the 144?

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On 2018-04-04 at 8:04 PM, Caferacerman said:

All of the 2-stroke Enduro models, including the 144?

Yes, That is the info we have.

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On 3/14/2018 at 0:30 PM, Klas Sweden said:

TM 2 stroke Enduromodells (NOT MX models )will have fuelinjected engines and E-start 2019.  Not sure about 6 speed tranny. 

/Klas

Maybe ... the US enduro bikes will have the 6 speed and estart (finally), but the option exists to stick with a carb or move to efi.

In the absence of the knowledge on how to make a voting thread >>>> if you're in the US and ride off-road, please reply below with whether you would prefer a carb or e-start, the reason(s) why one way or the other, and how much you'd be willing to pay to have a computer mix your gas and oil.

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E-start is a must

FI is less of a must but very appealing. Carbs for me always have issues sitting in storage for the 6 months of winter. FI never had a problem

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As a dealer I hear all the time, when are 2 strokes getting FI? (All brands). I have yet to hear, I will buy a bike as soon as you have a bike with FI.

The situation is TM can get us 2019 bikes in August with a newly designed smaller motor with E-start.  If we wait on FI, it is going to take longer.  it is getting to the point that we can not sell a 2 t unless it has E start, so I say bring them on with carbs, with an option for FI later.

Heck, send them without carbs and I will install Lectrons!

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On 4/11/2018 at 3:53 AM, Knox Enduro said:

As a dealer I hear all the time, when are 2 strokes getting FI? (All brands). I have yet to hear, I will buy a bike as soon as you have a bike with FI.

The situation is TM can get us 2019 bikes in August with a newly designed smaller motor with E-start.  If we wait on FI, it is going to take longer.  it is getting to the point that we can not sell a 2 t unless it has E start, so I say bring them on with carbs, with an option for FI later.

Heck, send them without carbs and I will install Lectrons!

The e-start, and the six speed options for me are the things that without, become deal breakers.  Admittedly, I might be inclined to see how the FI does the first year out, and then decide.  Lectrons are a great option in the meantime.  This is exciting news.

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As a dealer I hear all the time, when are 2 strokes getting FI? (All brands). I have yet to hear, I will buy a bike as soon as you have a bike with FI.
The situation is TM can get us 2019 bikes in August with a newly designed smaller motor with E-start.  If we wait on FI, it is going to take longer.  it is getting to the point that we can not sell a 2 t unless it has E start, so I say bring them on with carbs, with an option for FI later.
Heck, send them without carbs and I will install Lectrons!

I’m with you on the FI. Bring in the bikes in August! Though you can keep the Lectron. I’ve never ridden one I liked. Nothing at all wrong with a PWK air Stryker.
I used to sort of chuckle at the thought of a two stroke with Electric start, however, now I have one, and I must admit it’s pretty cool, when it works. I had the head shaved, so my bike has too much compression to e start cold. It’s fine when warm.
Personally, the e start would not stop me from getting another TM.

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Electric start is a must.6 speed would be nice but not a deal breaker. 

Carb would actually be my preference but customer's are definitely talking about fi and would help possibly sell more bikes.

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On 14/03/2018 at 4:03 AM, magpie5 said:

I hope this is true!  Please please gimme a 6 speed electric start 2 stroke!  That isn't orange... with an aluminum perimeter frame.

last time i was at the factory they said they would bring in the Fi as eu has made it hard for the 2 strokes emissions wise so very herd to get plated 

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