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See https://motocrossactionmag.com/is-suzuki-pulling-out-of-the-world-motocross-championships/

Considering running costs, it's little surprise that a couple of factory 250F teams are being shutdown and one scaled down.

Does this 450 team pull back mean that 4 strokes are now too expensive for the manufacturers too?

The top end of the sport seems unsustainable. 

One solution might be for factory teams to quit funding race teams at the elite end, and put the money saved into lower bike prices for the consumers.

I hope Suzuki chiefs regret shutting down their 2 stroke development. Cannot say I feel sorry for them.

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Keep dreaming.on the lower price thing and 2 stroke nonsense. It is just s sign of the times and value for corporate dollar, etc. 

 

If a lower price option were even available  people still wouldn't buy them because they are old tech  compromised, etc. People on forums like this would piss and moan about it. 

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8 hours ago, DEMI said:

Keep dreaming.on the lower price thing and 2 stroke nonsense. It is just s sign of the times and value for corporate dollar, etc.

I'm not dreaming for anything. A dollar is a dollar for every one. Just saying this news is a clear sign that it's too expensive for Suzuki to keep racing dirt bikes. And Kawi and Honda to keep racing 250Fs.  I think it's ironic and funny that they created or pursued a market which most consumers cannot afford to do, and now they cannot afford to do it themselves!

8 hours ago, DEMI said:

If a lower price option were even available people still wouldn't buy them because they are old tech  compromised, etc.

Price always impacts a decision to buy.  Dirt bikes do not need to be more high tech to be more fun. 

Anyone wishing for higher technology in the final product is detached from the broader reality of dirt biking. 

I think it makes more sense to keep the bikes simple and keep the high tech advancements in the production process.

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8 hours ago, numroe said:

I hope Suzuki chiefs regret shutting down their 2 stroke development. Cannot say I feel sorry for them.

 

I've been saying for years that Suzuki should develope a new kick ass smoker 

A moto version and a true woods version. Not a half ass attempt at a woods bike. They could steal most of Yami's market share and possibly cut into KTM's. That Yamaha is pitiful and they should be ashamed of themselves for stealing people's money the last 10 years 

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Motocross is dead. Everyone races off-road now where u can mob old clapped out smokers and still compete... 

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1 hour ago, numroe said:

I'm not dreaming for anything. A dollar is a dollar for every one. Just saying this news is a clear sign that it's too expensive for Suzuki to keep racing dirt bikes. And Kawi and Honda to keep racing 250Fs.  I think it's ironic and funny that they created or pursued a market which most consumers cannot afford to do, and now they cannot afford to do it themselves!

Price always impacts a decision to buy.  Dirt bikes do not need to be more high tech to be more fun. 

Anyone wishing for higher technology in the final product is detached from the broader reality of dirt biking. 

I think it makes more sense to keep the bikes simple and keep the high tech advancements in the production process.

May make more sense, but they still won't sell and bring people back or to the track for new riders. People have money as evidence with SxS and the like. 

Tech is here, not going backwards in price either. Can you imagine explaining to a younger person possibly interested in dirt bike that the bike they will use is low tech, but fun... compared to the other guy who has the latest. The only people interested in low tech are old folks. I would be interested... maybe not dreaming, but definitely internet fantasy.

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Suzuki is dealing with this because they was funding the team 100%. If a sponsor would step up the team would still run. But kind of hard to run a team on your own dime when joe smow bashes a bike that you just re made without riding it on the internet when him his self can’t even ride a early 00’s bike to its full potential. at the end of the day it hurts sales there for hurts the company aswell as racing side of things. Suzuki isn’t going to do something to keep loosing money

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8 hours ago, DEMI said:

Can you imagine explaining to a younger person possibly interested in dirt bike that the bike they will use is low tech, but fun... compared to the other guy who has the latest.

Yeah I can. I don't think kids would care.  There can be a high tech expensive class for the rich kids. The vast majority will have a blast racing and socialising in the low tech class. 

6 hours ago, AdamW21 said:

Suzuki isn’t going to do something to keep loosing money

So I guess that means RMZ production must cease one day too. Seems inevitable for the smallest supplier in a dying market place (4 stroke motocross).  When that happens I'm sure Suzuki won't be looking to blame external factors or Joe Schmoe's comments. They made choices.

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I agree they choose to try to sell the same old model year on year , no forward looking company does that

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when I look at buying something I look at what my priorities are. reliability, good power, suspension that can race and give me a chance stock, fun factor. I don't need the best turning, I don't need the fastest, i don't need suspension that needs to be sent to a guru that can get it better than me, I don't need something that takes a bunch of maintenance. I have a 125 that's more than enough maintenance swapping pistons and making sure i have c12 race fuel on hand with my favorite oils etc. If suzy wants a new boyfriend she better put out! otherwise their are other girls out there that will! 

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2 hours ago, numroe said:

Yeah I can. I don't think kids would care.  There can be a high tech expensive class for the rich kids. The vast majority will have a blast racing and socialising in the low tech class. 

So I guess that means RMZ production must cease one day too. Seems inevitable for the smallest supplier in a dying market place (4 stroke motocross).  When that happens I'm sure Suzuki won't be looking to blame external factors or Joe Schmoe's comments. They made choices.

You are out of touch with kids today then. Appearance is everything. Also, just look at the retards in this forum going on about the 2018 R MZ. FIrst it was a running joke, when are they going to update... then thry do and it still gets shit. Even the ancient YZs get grief.

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8 hours ago, DEMI said:

You are out of touch with kids today then. Appearance is everything. Also, just look at the retards in this forum going on about the 2018 R MZ. FIrst it was a running joke, when are they going to update... then thry do and it still gets shit. Even the ancient YZs get grief.

None of my three kids are like that.  Nor are most of their friends.  

So who's out of touch?

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15 minutes ago, Mudd94 said:

None of my three kids are like that.  Nor are most of their friends.  

So who's out of touch?

Clearly not your kids or friends... consider yourself lucky or special.

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