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https://motocrossactionmag.com/rumors-gossip-unfounded-truths-two-gimmick-races-before-testing-season-starts/

Scroll down to MXA add of the week and you will see the basic platform that would help our sport IF it was a fare system anyway ;).

With the exception of the chain torque eliminator mechanism this is the basic platform I would like to see some rouge American company start building. Larger displacement mello tuned air cooled 2 strokes with up to date chassis and suspensions. 

ATK where are you? your time has come........

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You'd be surprised how well the 406's still work today.  My '93 still runs like a champ, the suspension re valve I had done on it makes it a joy to ride.

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26 minutes ago, 07ATKEnduro said:

You'd be surprised how well the 406's still work today.  My '93 still runs like a champ, the suspension re valve I had done on it makes it a joy to ride.

yes that motor was quite good. Learn to shift and I bet competative against 450 4s in many classes today.

AND what could such a bike weigh? somthing like 210 lbs??

55 minutes ago, meyermetal said:

I don't think these would be competitive

 

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My kids learned how to carry momentum into a turn ridding those old mopeds! No power meant momentum was the game. We had a blast racing those things around the yard

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29 minutes ago, lowmass said:

 

yes that motor was quite good. Learn to shift and I bet competative against 450 4s in many classes today.

AND what could such a bike weigh? somthing like 210 lbs??

 

221 according to MXA which is 1 pound lighter than the KTM 450

http://davestestsandarticles.weebly.com/uploads/4/8/4/5/4845046/dbnov90atk406mx.pdf

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I have an XC, so its prolly a littler heavier than that, its feels like the same weight as my CR 250

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34 minutes ago, meyermetal said:

 

221 according to MXA which is 1 pound lighter than the KTM 450

http://davestestsandarticles.weebly.com/uploads/4/8/4/5/4845046/dbnov90atk406mx.pdf

yea and that old motor probably 5 lbs or so heavyer than nessasary

 

15 minutes ago, 07ATKEnduro said:

I have an XC, so its prolly a littler heavier than that, its feels like the same weight as my CR 250

I believe they had a short wheelbase and steep head angle. Twitchy at speed but probly "feels" light in motion.

 

The Alta is interesting, I guess ;) , BUT dam I could get excited about a well balanced light weight mello tune 400 cc two with up to date suspension at about 2/3 the price of a new 4T.

Isnt there some bored rich guy that needs somthin to do ? Would be a fun enterprise even if it did fail

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The old kx 500 weighs the same as a husky FC 250

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The 18 CRF 450 winner of 2 shootout weighs 30lb more

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2 hours ago, lowmass said:

 

yes that motor was quite good. Learn to shift and I bet competative against 450 4s in many classes today.

AND what could such a bike weigh? somthing like 210 lbs??

My kids learned how to carry momentum into a turn ridding those old mopeds! No power meant momentum was the game. We had a blast racing those things around the yard

Get all your buds on xr100's at a tt/flat track and prepare to have more fun than you thought possible on little bikes.  

 

I can see how mopeds would be similar.  

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49 minutes ago, KTMRider4Life said:

Get all your buds on xr100's at a tt/flat track and prepare to have more fun than you thought possible on little bikes.  

 

I can see how mopeds would be similar.  

That sounds like a ton of fun!

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56 minutes ago, KTMRider4Life said:

Get all your buds on xr100's at a tt/flat track and prepare to have more fun than you thought possible on little bikes.  

 

I can see how mopeds would be similar.  

xr100s are a marvelous machine. Best 6hp anything ever made. You got friends who haven't ridden in 10 or 20 years? Invite em over and let em ride the xr100 for a few hours and they might consider dirtbiking again. :ride:

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1 hour ago, Chaconne said:

xr100s are a marvelous machine. Best 6hp anything ever made. You got friends who haven't ridden in 10 or 20 years? Invite em over and let em ride the xr100 for a few hours and they might consider dirtbiking again. :ride:

I keep getting the itch to get into the vintage thing.  Unfortunately, I think my days of riding and racing current stuff is over, but I've always had a passion for the 1982 RM250, must be when I was really getting into bikes.  Plus, the vintage guys do it more for fun and I won't be feeling like I'll have to do the quad to trophy.  :lol:  It would be more about the fun, fixing up the bike, etc.

 

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3 hours ago, KTMRider4Life said:

Get all your buds on xr100's at a tt/flat track and prepare to have more fun than you thought possible on little bikes.  

 

I can see how mopeds would be similar.  

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1 hour ago, jcm3 said:

I keep getting the itch to get into the vintage thing.  Unfortunately, I think my days of riding and racing current stuff is over, but I've always had a passion for the 1982 RM250, must be when I was really getting into bikes.  Plus, the vintage guys do it more for fun and I won't be feeling like I'll have to do the quad to trophy.  :lol:  It would be more about the fun, fixing up the bike, etc.

 

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Ive never ridden any bike that would absorb sharp square edge bumps like the rear end of that bike

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I read a funny interview with Horst Lietner.   "I use CAD to design my inventions.   Cardboard Aided Design."   He would use cardboard with brass paper fasteners to make prototypes.  Explore how to make linkages work.   His AMP link suspension for mtn bikes is one of the best.

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2 hours ago, jcm3 said:

That sounds like a ton of fun!

You have no idea unless you've done it, I do it with a group of old guys that have been racing flat tank since the 70's from time to time.  It someone gets pretty serious and we've had some people get really mad after getting bumped or knocked down

2 hours ago, Chaconne said:

xr100s are a marvelous machine. Best 6hp anything ever made. You got friends who haven't ridden in 10 or 20 years? Invite em over and let em ride the xr100 for a few hours and they might consider dirtbiking again. :ride:

Pro road racers train on them too, it's a marvelous tool to learn to go fast on. Ive got two, one that's street legal. 

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8 hours ago, meyermetal said:

I don't think these would be competitive

 

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they might not be competitive unless you're looking from a sales perspective....Honda has sold more of these than any other  motorcycle.....talk about a money maker....

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I could see that 406 being a great do it all off road bike today.  I'd rather have it scaled down a bit, maybe 350cc, but keep it in an air cooled Rotax engine,  linkless rear end, and 6-speed.  At a realistic price that reflects the relative lack of technology, and I'd hand over the money tomorrow.  

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