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Which bike should I buy for single track and woods riding?

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On 2/15/2018 at 3:20 PM, bob_slinger said:

I enjoy riding flowing single track and double track with some small technical sections, nothing insane. I'm also way too cheap to spend thousands of $$$ every riding season on maintenance and rebuilds. I've owned a dual sport 1987 XL185 that was underpowered but predictable and a 1991 YZ125 that was overpowering and exhausting in technical stuff (though I'm not a fan of 2-stroke exhaust and noise).

I'm 6'1" and 200 lbs with riding gear.

I've narrowed down my choices to Honda CRF250L (heavy and underpowered but low maintenance), Honda CRF250X (smooth power but expensive maintenance), Husky TE250 (smooth power and easier maintenance than CRF250X), Husky WR125 (super light weight and easy maintenance but 2-stroke) and KDX200 (cheap, lightweight but 2-stroke).

I realize that the CRF250L is more road oriented and closer to my vintage XL185 - I'm considering putting on more aggressive tires and raising the bars. I like that the CRF250L engine has a 8,000km service interval though it is greatly underpowered. I don't mind trailering a bike, so road worthiness is not a deal breaker. I'm concerned the CRF250L will be cramped for my 6'1" size and I've read that the rear suspension is too soft and sags significantly for anyone over 180 lbs.

The CRF250X seems like the best choice for single track and woods riding but I've read that rebuilds can be expensive and complicated. I've ridden the CRF250X a few times and it feels slightly bogged down at lower rpm.

The TE250 frame and design look easier for rebuild/maintenance and people have said it is more agile (I've raced mountain bikes most of my life so I appreciate a maneuverable bike).

I'm only considering the 2-stroke WR125 and KDX200 because they are super lightweight and should have a smoother power delivery and better low-end grunt than my old YZ125 on the trails. I'm not a fan of the sound or smell of 2-strokes but if it makes the riding experience that much better I would consider a 2-stroke.

Hoping to get some feedback before the spring riding season.

 

I have a buddy selling a 99 KDX 200, great bike, he was going to wait until spring to list it.  Let me know if you want more info.

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"I'm not a fan of the sound or smell of 2-strokes"   Blasphemy.
Yep. That would precede the scene in Full Metal Jacket when the Gunny says "who the &%$#@! said that?!".
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If you’re stuck on 4 strokes, get a newer KTM 250xc-f or Husky equivalent. Or just go for it with a KTM 200 or 250xc-w

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my neighbor has a kawi 220 - great bike. the honda 250 is a lot more bike as are most of the options mentioned by others. I have a crf450 and an exc 500 and I've been looking at a ktm 150 xc-w for the miles of tight single track next to my home. pricey though. For full size machines, nothing will feel lighter 201 lbs. and low mounted low spinning mass. The mx version of the 150 is a bit lighter. 250 Valve problems will not be an issue with lower revs used in single track.

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my neighbor has a kawi 220 - great bike. the honda 250 is a lot more bike as are most of the options mentioned by others. I have a crf450 and an exc 500 and I've been looking at a ktm 150 xc-w for the miles of tight single track next to my home. pricey though. For full size machines, nothing will feel lighter 201 lbs. and low mounted low spinning mass. The mx version of the 150 is a bit lighter. 250 Valve problems will not be an issue with lower revs used in single track.
It's easy to keep your 250 power valves clean with proper jetting.

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20 minutes ago, ToysAlot said:
my neighbor has a kawi 220 - great bike. the honda 250 is a lot more bike as are most of the options mentioned by others. I have a crf450 and an exc 500 and I've been looking at a ktm 150 xc-w for the miles of tight single track next to my home. pricey though. For full size machines, nothing will feel lighter 201 lbs. and low mounted low spinning mass. The mx version of the 150 is a bit lighter. 250 Valve problems will not be an issue with lower revs used in single track.

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It's easy to keep your 250 power valves clean with proper jetting.

I was referring to the intake and ex valve issues mentioned with the 250 four strokes. Nothing is better in tight woods than low weight and low spinning mass so 2 strokes are easier to flick around. the ktm 150 is basically a 125 ex for the jug and piston so its the lightest - you just have to rev and shift more. I can be almost lazy on my big bore machines but I would prob be faster on a 150 - its all about corner speed.

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I was referring to the intake and ex valve issues mentioned with the 250 four strokes. Nothing is better in tight woods than low weight and low spinning mass so 2 strokes are easier to flick around. the ktm 150 is basically a 125 ex for the jug and piston so its the lightest - you just have to rev and shift more. I can be almost lazy on my big bore machines but I would prob be faster on a 150 - its all about corner speed.
Yeah i was just messing about. Because why would anyone buy a 250f when they could buy a 250 smoker.
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