2014 wr450 hard to find neutral ?

[GVDRZ400SM]

Just picked up 2014 wr450f and I’m finding it hard to find neutral ... Whether the bike is running or not . Clutch is properly adjusted . Is this a WR thing ? It’s my first Yamaha ! 

[jamesm113]

Have you changed the oil?  That can effect shifting.

My 07 is pretty easy to find neutral.

[SatansReverence]

Clutch not disengaging completely.

Overdue for an oil change.

warped clutch discs.

[GVDRZ400SM]

I’m gonna have to pop the clutch cover off and take a look at the basket and discs . Cause it doesent feel right . Trying to get in neutral from first gear , shifter is super hard and almost always skips neutral and goes into 2nd gear . And same with going into neutral from 2nd 

[Jens Eskildsen]

Its usually grooves in the clutch-basket.

 

Mare sure you have freeplay so the clutch isnt dragging.

Theres also a mod to drill holes in the basket to get more oilflow, havent tried this yet tho'

[jamesm113]

Yah, the swiss cheese mod. 

I performed that mod and am quite happy with the results. 

[FORMA MOTO]

Over heated metal discs (warped) causing un-even disengagement of all the discs,  and binding

Overheated/ sacked clutch springs causing un-even disengagement of all the discs,  and binding

Notched clutch basket causing......

Mis adjusted clutch lever 

 

[SteveThe Snakes]

1 hour ago, THE KRAN said:

Over heated metal discs (warped) causing un-even disengagement of all the discs,  and binding

I go with number one. Replace the warped metal discs and ride. ?

[CaptCapsize]

My 2012 is also really hard to find Neutral when hot and running.  Shut it off and Neutral is easy.  I also just replace a worn out clutch cable 6 months ago.  Adjusting the clutch free play does not help with finding neutral when the engine is hot.  The clutch is not slipping.  Maybe I am being a little paranoid because our COBDR trip was ended by a total clutch failure on a friends BMW on a Ophir Pass.  Not sure how long a clutch should last.

[FORMA MOTO]

1 hour ago, CaptCapsize said:

My 2012 is also really hard to find Neutral when hot and running.  Shut it off and Neutral is easy.  I also just replace a worn out clutch cable 6 months ago.  Adjusting the clutch free play does not help with finding neutral when the engine is hot.  The clutch is not slipping.  Maybe I am being a little paranoid because our COBDR trip was ended by a total clutch failure on a friends BMW on a Ophir Pass.  Not sure how long a clutch should last.

WR clutches last a very long time, but the oem springs are crap (they sack in a few hours) and the clutch runs hot.

Barnett or Hinson Yz250F springs work great

[CaptCapsize]

Thanks,

I think I will replace the clutch pack and springs at the same time.  Last oil change it looked like there was a tiny bit clutch material in the drained oil. 

I replaced the clutch cable after it required frequent adjustment to disengage on a gnarly ride.  I babied the clutch to get out of the rocky ravine we were in.  When I got back to town I took it apart and there were only 4 strands of the clutch cable remaining.  I ride very remote areas and reliability is more important to me, than performance.   If that clutch cable had failed I was looking at about a 10 mile hike to get to a road.  

[SteveThe Snakes]

29 minutes ago, CaptCapsize said:

Thanks,

I think I will replace the clutch pack and springs at the same time.  Last oil change it looked like there was a tiny bit clutch material in the drained oil. 

I replaced the clutch cable after it required frequent adjustment to disengage on a gnarly ride.  I babied the clutch to get out of the rocky ravine we were in.  When I got back to town I took it apart and there were only 4 strands of the clutch cable remaining.  I ride very remote areas and reliability is more important to me, than performance.   If that clutch cable had failed I was looking at about a 10 mile hike to get to a road.  

Keep your eyes on those WR clutch cables. I’ve been through many but they do  give you a little warning as they require adjustment all of a sudden. 

[CaptCapsize]

Thanks,

I de-burred and smoothed all edges that the cable passes through.  But, a spare clutch cable may still be in order.  

I am the second owner of this bike.  The previous owner is a good friend.  He took very good care of it, but he also rode it pretty hard.  At least a lot harder than I ride.   I love the bike, but sometimes it kicks my butt.  It is capable of a lot more than I am.