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Newer 690 vs older 690 + 390?

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Hi guys/gals, I currently have a DRZ400SM that I bought at the beginning of the year and have really enjoyed it. It opened up my eyes to trail rides and wow, I’m just loving that, as well as a couple track days. I need to “split the bike up”, can’t continue doing the trails we’re doing on SM wheels/tires, and I’m looking at going farther from home. 

Also, even after 40 years of riding, never knew I’d have so much fun on a small bike and it’s taken the place of my car for a DD. All my friends ride KTM and I already know I want a 690 after trying one out. However, I quickly parked the borrowed 690 after only 2 days of commuting, as it’s just too cumbersome for me in that role. I thought the 390 with all of its benefits over the DRZ (6 gears, slipper, 10+hp, F.I., ABS, etc) would be a good companion and DD. I do have an old Ducati Multistrada that I love for sport touring and riding with the wife.

So, with the budget I have, I can get an older 690 (2009 mint low miles) and a 390 (2015) for a new daily driver, or maybe just keep the DRZ and get a newer 690 (2016 mint low miles). Zero $ for a while to farkle it, but I won’t die  

I guess I’m curious how much the newer bike will make a difference on the trails with its fly by wire, ABS, a bit more hp etc, as well as the hour or more it can take to get to said trail on the street.

I’ve watched so many videos and read so many articles that my head is spinning, so I thought I’d ask your opinion. 

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On 9/10/2019 at 11:22 AM, Wetfeet said:

I quickly parked the borrowed 690 after only 2 days of commuting, as it’s just too cumbersome for me in that role.

Cumbersome? Don't get that at all. 

I think the 690 for dirt is best without the ABS crap. If you get a 2012-13 you still access the ECU for diagnostics and loading custom MAPs. Newer bike's ECUs are locked. Also the 2009 stock map is not the best throttle response. It was much improved on the 2011 and improved more on the 2012-13. 

No idea why you would want a 390 if you had a 690? I would be more inclined to get a smaller bike for dirt and run the 690 on the streets. I started bike commuting on a Husky SM years ago and quickly put too many miles on a "racing dirt bike single" . I commuted 22 miles a day. I currently have 90,000 miles on my Yamaha commuter. Very happ all those miles are on a cheap bike and not my KTM.

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4 hours ago, DrKayak said:

Cumbersome? Don't get that at all. 

I think the 690 for dirt is best without the ABS crap. If you get a 2012-13 you still access the ECU for diagnostics and loading custom MAPs. Newer bike's ECUs are locked. Also the 2009 stock map is not the best throttle response. It was much improved on the 2011 and improved more on the 2012-13. 

No idea why you would want a 390 if you had a 690? I would be more inclined to get a smaller bike for dirt and run the 690 on the streets. I started bike commuting on a Husky SM years ago and quickly put too many miles on a "racing dirt bike single" . I commuted 22 miles a day. I currently have 90,000 miles on my Yamaha commuter. Very happ all those miles are on a cheap bike and not my KTM.

Good advice, very interesting about the fueling on the different years. And just yesterday my friend put up an offer with his 2012R, he’d get the 2016 and swap some of his R parts. I’d still end up with a well cared for low mile bike. 

I guess I could’ve elaborated on the cumbersome part, and maybe even chose another word. Where I store the DRZ400 (both work and home) it barely fits, the 690 is considerably taller and just a bit more difficult to move around where I have to park, and the distance is only a couple miles through a small town, so the 400 (or perhaps a 390) just seems like more fun to drive, in THAT circumstance. The 690 is just overkill in that role, not that I’d complain if I had to do it that way.

So more directly to answer your question, I wanted the 390 (or keep 400) for a fun, street dedicated daily driver, and I can take that to the track a few times a year as well. The 690 would be trail/adventure dedicated with semi knobbies, 20/80, so I’d rather not use it on the street a lot or for DD. It’s just that my riding buddies are starting to check out trails and adventures  that are just too far to do on the drz, and I’m beating the drz up. 

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i own a 2019 690 enduro r and have ridden a drz 400 and my 690 is leap years ahead on road and off road compared to the drz, the new 690 is very smooth on road and less vibrations then my last bike which was a 2015 dr 650. 

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On 9/13/2019 at 1:42 PM, Muskoka KTM said:

i own a 2019 690 enduro r and have ridden a drz 400 and my 690 is leap years ahead on road and off road compared to the drz, the new 690 is very smooth on road and less vibrations then my last bike which was a 2015 dr 650. 

Great to hear! And congrats on your 2019. I know the DRZ is prehistoric technology, yet it is still fun as heck to ride around town, but for “longer” road travel and easy to difficult trails, it seems the 690 is a great choice. 

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