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14 minutes ago, Zinergy said:

Nah, that's pretty much what I got out of it as well. He has a kx450 with many hours on it already. It's been his race, practice and training class bike. Running at pro speeds in a 3 hour GNCC would make any bike suspect that has already hours etc. Hell KR couldn't even ride his bike full out in an event or 2 this year for 3 hours and had to baby his bike while his teammate lets him by. And that's a factory bike with mechanics rebuilding it between every event.

That's a reasonable explainer, you sure this is a pro thread? 

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Disclaimer: lots of people seem to think I am upset about something and making a rash comment. I’ll just smile and be on my way 😂 Many of you here are totally oblivious to the true story here. Sherco let him go with no explanation at all. He explained that clearly on the OTP podcast the other day. He’s an outspoken guy, who lives his life like the rest of us and doesn’t try to pull off some kind of corporate bullshit. He likes to eat good like we all do and have a beer or two when the time right. What’s wrong with that? Yeah sure he’s outspoken and doesn’t hold anything back, but none of you can deny the fact the dude is a bad mother&%$#@!er on a bike. Stew is the most accomplished offroad racer right behind KR yet gets constantly treated as an outcast. Corporate shit is ridiculous. He didn’t race the Kawi because he has been training the next generation of racers, practicing, and dogging the shit out of the thing. How many of you would trust a bike with that kind of abuse for a 3 hour GNCC at the highest level? Exactly. I think I read years ago that he puts 300+ hours on his bikes each year. He rides all the time. I believe he said it best when he said, “I don’t have a plan moving forward. If me winning, and then that big crowd at the finish line cheering doesn’t say everything about me, then, I guess I’ll leave that up to the teams.“ He WILL get an offer and be right there with Duvall, Bollinger, Kelley, and both Strang and Toth next year when the time comes. He’s proven enough at this point. The man has bills to pay, that doesn’t make him a crybaby to explain himself and talk about how shafted he has been by everyone around him. If being himself isn’t enough for these teams then they don’t deserve him anyways. Trust me, a team will pick him up and he will potentially even take this enduro title this year as well. Shit, he could do it on his own if he could get the funds. Stew is a bad ass dude and he doesn’t care what anyone thinks about him. If you’ve got a problem with that then you shouldn’t even be part of this sport. Let the dude live how he wants to live. He clearly can still win a 3 hour brutal GNCC on a bike he had an hour an 20 minutes on. Are you guys insane? Dude is an animal. Open your eyes. 

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On 9/15/2020 at 3:57 PM, Chaconne said:

FIFY.

You would normally attract @mog with an out of context quote like this, but I guess the Yamaha winning would keep him at bay... :D

He won on the kx so it must be good 

 

But he doesn't trust it to last ,so it must be bad l

 

Good or bad 🤣

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5 hours ago, grobbins81 said:

Many of you here are totally oblivious to the true story here. Sherco let him go with no explanation at all. He explained that clearly on the OTP podcast the other day. He’s an outspoken guy, who lives his life like the rest of us and doesn’t try to pull off some kind of corporate bullshit. He likes to eat good like we all do and have a beer or two when the time right. What’s wrong with that? Yeah sure he’s outspoken and doesn’t hold anything back, but none of you can deny the fact the dude is a bad mother&%$#@!er on a bike. Stew is the most accomplished offroad racer right behind KR yet gets constantly treated as an outcast. Corporate shit is ridiculous. He didn’t race the Kawi because he has been training the next generation of racers, practicing, and dogging the shit out of the thing. How many of you would trust a bike with that kind of abuse for a 3 hour GNCC at the highest level? Exactly. I think I read years ago that he puts 300+ hours on his bikes each year. He rides all the time. I believe he said it best when he said, “I don’t have a plan moving forward. If me winning, and then that big crowd at the finish line cheering doesn’t say everything about me, then, I guess I’ll leave that up to the teams.“ He WILL get an offer and be right there with Duvall, Bollinger, Kelley, and both Strang and Toth next year when the time comes. He’s proven enough at this point. The man has bills to pay, that doesn’t make him a crybaby to explain himself and talk about how shafted he has been by everyone around him. If being himself isn’t enough for these teams then they don’t deserve him anyways. Trust me, a team will pick him up and he will potentially even take this enduro title this year as well. Shit, he could do it on his own if he could get the funds. Stew is a bad ass dude and he doesn’t care what anyone thinks about him. If you’ve got a problem with that then you shouldn’t even be part of this sport. Let the dude live how he wants to live. He clearly can still win a 3 hour brutal GNCC on a bike he had an hour an 20 minutes on. Are you guys insane? Dude is an animal. Open your eyes. 

Stew is that you? Welcome to TT big guy. 


Now...with the pleasantries out of the way, wipe those tears from your eyes, keep your pie hole shut and you might get another good ride.

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7 minutes ago, indy rider said:

Stew is that you? Welcome to TT big guy. 


Now...with the pleasantries out of the way, wipe those tears from your eyes, keep your pie hole shut and you might get another good ride.

Copy and pasted into the vital Stu thread also

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You guys are too funny. I stated nothing but facts, was just explaining what many here don’t seem to realize. I’ve followed this sport since a young child and have seen it change and grow and the way the industry has handled Stew just isn’t fair. That’s all. No hard feelings intended. 

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36 minutes ago, indy rider said:

Stew is that you? Welcome to TT big guy. 
Now...with the pleasantries out of the way, wipe those tears from your eyes, keep your pie hole shut and you might get another good ride.

I think he should have talked in detail about the compaction he delivered that day.  I hear the sponsors like that.

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7 hours ago, Howie &%$#@!terpus said:

Disclaimer: lots of people seem to think I am upset about something and making a rash comment. I’ll just smile and be on my way 😂 Many of you here are totally oblivious to the true story here. Sherco let him go with no explanation at all. He explained that clearly on the OTP podcast the other day. He’s an outspoken guy, who lives his life like the rest of us and doesn’t try to pull off some kind of corporate bullshit. He likes to eat good like we all do and have a beer or two when the time right. What’s wrong with that? Yeah sure he’s outspoken and doesn’t hold anything back, but none of you can deny the fact the dude is a bad mother&%$#@!er on a bike. Stew is the most accomplished offroad racer right behind KR yet gets constantly treated as an outcast. Corporate shit is ridiculous. He didn’t race the Kawi because he has been training the next generation of racers, practicing, and dogging the shit out of the thing. How many of you would trust a bike with that kind of abuse for a 3 hour GNCC at the highest level? Exactly. I think I read years ago that he puts 300+ hours on his bikes each year. He rides all the time. I believe he said it best when he said, “I don’t have a plan moving forward. If me winning, and then that big crowd at the finish line cheering doesn’t say everything about me, then, I guess I’ll leave that up to the teams.“ He WILL get an offer and be right there with Duvall, Bollinger, Kelley, and both Strang and Toth next year when the time comes. He’s proven enough at this point. The man has bills to pay, that doesn’t make him a crybaby to explain himself and talk about how shafted he has been by everyone around him. If being himself isn’t enough for these teams then they don’t deserve him anyways. Trust me, a team will pick him up and he will potentially even take this enduro title this year as well. Shit, he could do it on his own if he could get the funds. Stew is a bad ass dude and he doesn’t care what anyone thinks about him. If you’ve got a problem with that then you shouldn’t even be part of this sport. Let the dude live how he wants to live. He clearly can still win a 3 hour brutal GNCC on a bike he had an hour an 20 minutes on. Are you guys insane? Dude is an animal. Open your eyes. 

Winning isn't everything. Doing the job is only part of the equation, HOW you do the job is the other part. 

Ask me how I know? Lol

 

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On 9/15/2020 at 7:23 PM, k.g said:

AP7 said in a podcast that KR likely makes around $250k. 

 

On 9/16/2020 at 7:40 AM, ckny said:

How would AP7 know? 
I think he makes a fair bit more than $250k. 

Probably his salary. After other sponsors and bonus/win money, it's more.

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1 hour ago, k.g said:

This is me asking how you know. 

@Hans Schmid was trying to attract some outside sponsors, but they demanded that he shave his back, and he refused.  I have to respect a person that has the courage of their convictions.

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8 hours ago, Howie &%$#@!terpus said:

Disclaimer: lots of people seem to think I am upset about something and making a rash comment. I’ll just smile and be on my way 😂 Many of you here are totally oblivious to the true story here. Sherco let him go with no explanation at all. He explained that clearly on the OTP podcast the other day. He’s an outspoken guy, who lives his life like the rest of us and doesn’t try to pull off some kind of corporate bullshit. He likes to eat good like we all do and have a beer or two when the time right. What’s wrong with that? Yeah sure he’s outspoken and doesn’t hold anything back, but none of you can deny the fact the dude is a bad mother&%$#@!er on a bike. Stew is the most accomplished offroad racer right behind KR yet gets constantly treated as an outcast. Corporate shit is ridiculous. He didn’t race the Kawi because he has been training the next generation of racers, practicing, and dogging the shit out of the thing. How many of you would trust a bike with that kind of abuse for a 3 hour GNCC at the highest level? Exactly. I think I read years ago that he puts 300+ hours on his bikes each year. He rides all the time. I believe he said it best when he said, “I don’t have a plan moving forward. If me winning, and then that big crowd at the finish line cheering doesn’t say everything about me, then, I guess I’ll leave that up to the teams.“ He WILL get an offer and be right there with Duvall, Bollinger, Kelley, and both Strang and Toth next year when the time comes. He’s proven enough at this point. The man has bills to pay, that doesn’t make him a crybaby to explain himself and talk about how shafted he has been by everyone around him. If being himself isn’t enough for these teams then they don’t deserve him anyways. Trust me, a team will pick him up and he will potentially even take this enduro title this year as well. Shit, he could do it on his own if he could get the funds. Stew is a bad ass dude and he doesn’t care what anyone thinks about him. If you’ve got a problem with that then you shouldn’t even be part of this sport. Let the dude live how he wants to live. He clearly can still win a 3 hour brutal GNCC on a bike he had an hour an 20 minutes on. Are you guys insane? Dude is an animal. Open your eyes. 

Most folks have to adhere to a corporate bullshit standard of behavior in order to make a living. That's just how it is. I can't pile out of my car in a cloud of dooby smoke at 11am, waltz in wearing flip flops and board shorts with my pistol stuck into my waistband then proceed to say the funk to my bosses bullshit, microwave some fish in the common area and take hour long shits or beat off to porn at my desk. My preferred lifestyle would get me unemployed. If a guy wants to be a professional racer, the professional racer standards have to be observed. Otherwise dude can yak out the side of his neck all he wants and be the baddest MF no one's ever heard of. Easy choice. 

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3 hours ago, Howie &%$#@!terpus said:

You guys are too funny. I stated nothing but facts, was just explaining what many here don’t seem to realize. I’ve followed this sport since a young child and have seen it change and grow and the way the industry has handled Stew just isn’t fair. That’s all. No hard feelings intended. 

No hard feelings at all, but that screen name has got to be one of the all time best  :applause:

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1 hour ago, HeavyRotationClassic said:

Most folks have to adhere to a corporate bullshit standard of behavior in order to make a living. That's just how it is. I can't pile out of my car in a cloud of dooby smoke at 11am, waltz in wearing flip flops and board shorts with my pistol stuck into my waistband then proceed to say the funk to my bosses bullshit, microwave some fish in the common area and take hour long shits or beat off to porn at my desk. My preferred lifestyle would get me unemployed. If a guy wants to be a professional racer, the professional racer standards have to be observed. Otherwise dude can yak out the side of his neck all he wants and be the baddest MF no one's ever heard of. Easy choice. 

:D ^Awesome^:D

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1 hour ago, redrider144 said:

@Hans Schmid was trying to attract some outside sponsors, but they demanded that he shave his back, and he refused.  I have to respect a person that has the courage of their convictions.

I'm the reason he wouldn't shave his back :moon:

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2 hours ago, HeavyRotationClassic said:

Most folks have to adhere to a corporate bullshit standard of behavior in order to make a living. That's just how it is. I can't pile out of my car in a cloud of dooby smoke at 11am, waltz in wearing flip flops and board shorts with my pistol stuck into my waistband then proceed to say the funk to my bosses bullshit, microwave some fish in the common area and take hour long shits or beat off to porn at my desk. My preferred lifestyle would get me unemployed. If a guy wants to be a professional racer, the professional racer standards have to be observed. Otherwise dude can yak out the side of his neck all he wants and be the baddest MF no one's ever heard of. Easy choice. 

I really appreciate this reply, and totally understand where you’re coming from. I like you sir. I agree that in order for anyone to make a decent living racing professional motorcycles, a corporate mindset is very important. Corporate mindset for any serious job actually. Sure, Stew should observe the professional racer standards. My own personal outlook is that there should be no issues with him being outspoken and open about his personal life. Sure, there is a line that can be crossed. But I personally don’t believe he has crossed that line. He is easily one of the best guys out there right now, he deserves a ride, and he has proven he can win in GNCC, NEPG, Full Gas, ISDE, you name it. The dude also proved he can be highly competitive on pretty much every brand as well. I think he’s only not raced a Honda and a Suzuki at this point? At the end of the day, the point I was trying to make is that I don’t feel like he’s been given the opportunities he deserves simply because he is a more open outspoken type of person. And I don’t think anyone or anything is ever gonna change that. If it hampers him getting a ride and contract then yes, that’s on him. I just feel that the sport really needs guys like this to keep it interesting and fun and not so serious and political. Guys like Stew are what get people interested in GNCC and likewise events. Teams should want that in their camp. Clearly there must be more to the storyline of his raving career that has hindered his chances of a full factory effort being placed in front of him. End of story - he’s a bad ass on a bike, a cool ass dude, and would probably bring a championship or two to any brand that would give him a chance. But, at the end of the day, what do we all even know. We’re nothing but fans and spectators making speculations about his personal business. All I can say is I’m a huge fan and I wish him the best. Him winning this race was the coolest thing I’ve seen in a long time. Thanks for listening 👍🏻

2 hours ago, OUTERLIMITS said:

No hard feelings at all, but that screen name has got to be one of the all time best  :applause:

I appreciate that, my mom really raised me right. You should meet my brother, Emerson Biggens. 

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From where I sit, nobody deserves a ride. A racer can certainly earn a ride, and that ride (and the attendent compensation etc) is subject to the measure of success laid out by the person or organization offering the deal.

If success is measured by race-winning speed, then certainly Stew has earned a ride. If a professional demeaneor and measured speech factors into that decision, it is debatable whether he has.

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