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10 hours ago, Piney Woods said:

I think I have read all of Kranny's threads and sometimes given him a hard time. But in truth I totally understand his quest. I had a bike once that became magical after pro tuning and it forever spoiled me to what is possible. It gave me supreme confidence and elevated my mediocre skills to a higher level with trophies to prove it.  Then I bought a couple bikes with AL frames and for whatever reason I have been miserable since with wasted $$$$ on susp mods. For me susp is by far the most critical mod for me and I understand doing whatever it takes to achieve success. If only I could figure out what that "whatever" is.  Good luck Kranny,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but I'm still gonna have some fun with you occasionally. 🤣

My 2003 WR450F with the Enzo set-up 2006 YZ suspension was magical. Lots of frame compliance, and zero flex in the forks. My favorite combination. That's one of the main reasons I liked my 2016 430 so much, as it had a lot of frame complaince......but the forks....got them to  be acceptable, then gave up. 

I made 3 more AL framed WR-YZ's after that, trying to re-capture the magic. I got close, but the frames just got stiffer and stiffer each year.....

My 2008 CRF450R with re-valved Showa was another one. Added Rekluse, and it was fun....but the stally-stally on the tight single track go old really fast.  I drilled out the motor mount brackets so they would flex more!  No one belived me it made a difference....till they climbed a rutty hill on that bike.....but No estart...

Hell, even my tank of a CRF450X had really well valved suspension from AS Racing, that was comfly and controlled. 

In 1975 I rode a CR250 Elsinore two stroke with factory Showa suspension, and was blown away ! 4" of travel that made you feel like a hero! 

Then my 1977 RM250 with the Thorwaldson swingarm and shocks and Al Baker forks. I got a holeshot at Saddleback with that one...... What a bike! 10" of pretty good travel.

 

......and then their's the DKW !   Koni's in the rear, Betors up front.  Highest center of gravity bike ever.   Would not lean over unless there was a rail berm to use.....

 

 

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17 hours ago, KRAYNIAL said:

My 2003 WR450F with the Enzo set-up 2006 YZ suspension was magical. Lots of frame compliance, and zero flex in the forks. My favorite combination. That's one of the main reasons I liked my 2016 430 so much, as it had a lot of frame complaince......but the forks....got them to  be acceptable, then gave up. 

I made 3 more AL framed WR-YZ's after that, trying to re-capture the magic. I got close, but the frames just got stiffer and stiffer each year.....

My 2008 CRF450R with re-valved Showa was another one. Added Rekluse, and it was fun....but the stally-stally on the tight single track go old really fast.  I drilled out the motor mount brackets so they would flex more!  No one belived me it made a difference....till they climbed a rutty hill on that bike.....but No estart...

Hell, even my tank of a CRF450X had really well valved suspension from AS Racing, that was comfly and controlled. 

In 1975 I rode a CR250 Elsinore two stroke with factory Showa suspension, and was blown away ! 4" of travel that made you feel like a hero! 

Then my 1977 RM250 with the Thorwaldson swingarm and shocks and Al Baker forks. I got a holeshot at Saddleback with that one...... What a bike! 10" of pretty good travel.

 

......and then their's the DKW !   Koni's in the rear, Betors up front.  Highest center of gravity bike ever.   Would not lean over unless there was a rail berm to use.....

 

 

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That's a pretty nice ass for a dirtbiker.

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I think the frame thing is like other suspension parameters, some people are more sensitive than others to changes.  I can feel the alloy frame being stiffer, but it does not bother me in itself, as long as the suspension is set up well it works as a system.  What I think it does do is make front/rear balance more important as it seems you can feel any flaws easier.

Kran, curious about what you did back then as far as correcting egos, because all of the old bikes were tiny by todays standards.  I've ridden from the early '70s as a kid and don't remember anyone doing tall seats, low pegs, etc. as there was just far less available, at least for the masses.  

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Well, went for a ride today.  

Suspension did not get much of a work out. 

Here is my ride pic of the day....

 

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..... i forgot the key and we were unsucsseful at hot wiring.....

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What's your problem? Yes, you did miss the point. For the last time I never said he couldn't spend his money any way he wanted and even if I did so what? Why is this so important to you?

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I hope he is very happy with his choice and enjoys it. DONE!!!!!

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44 minutes ago, ktm400rcer said:

What's your problem? Yes, you did miss the point. For the last time I never said he couldn't spend his money any way he wanted and even if I did so what? Why is this so important to you?

LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I hope he is very happy with his choice and enjoys it. DONE!!!!!

You are boring, can we move on?

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