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My pair of go to IoM TT vids while at the gym on the elliptical.  Focus, focus, focus...

 

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11 minutes ago, eastreich said:

I so wish that Guy could have won one of the Senior or Superbike races over the course of the last decade or so.

The dude is a madman. His crashes at the tt race are intense.  

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The TT Races started in 1907.  There had been a race in Europe once a year and whoever won it hosted it the next year.  The rules were that you carried your spares, did your own work etc and it was to be a fair and honest race between Gentlemen. 

Puch of Austria won it in 1905.  So in 1906 everyone turned up by train and started the race, but everyone noticed all the "works" Puch riders, then they noticed the sidecar outfits full of spares that just happened to be parked every mile or so around the Roads Race circuit.  None of the Puchs "broke down", they won it by a country mile.  People were hacked off.  when you brake a valve and a mechanic replaces it or a tyre delaminates and they have a wheel ready.....anyway, you get the picture.  

On the train on the way home, Lord ?, Benjamin Franklyn (yes, he of the Indian Motorcycles fame) from Cork (that's in Eire lads OK?) and the two Collier Brothers that had just started Matchless said "phuq this for a game of soldiers.  we can't go back there again with those cheating bastards!  and we aren't allowed to race in the UK so where does that leave?"
"we'll the IoM has car racing....let's ask them if they'll hold a Motor Cycle race?"

That is how it started.  

The racing is being cancelled because there are 2-3,000 marshalls - all volunteers - the vast majority and the knowledge is in the grizzled old bastards that go there every year.  They book the Ferry with 364.5 days to go usually and now they don't think that they will get a fraction of that booking up.  The TT organisers can't get to May and then find out.  

Why is the race considered in its day the greatest?  that's easy...
Well, everyone raced standard bikes at the beginning, nobody knew what they were doing....nobody....so you pick the longest race in Europe, all the manufacturers at the time were settling down to be English or Italian but the English were the Force Majuer.  The course smashes you to pieces, you can't see where you are going properly for 50% of the lap, the track is a blur.  It gets very, very cold, The jetting has to be set for 100 feet to 2,000 feet.  The mountain which they climb is very steep and the bikes become breathless, the course is the second fastest in the World yet has 3x10mph hairpins, you are flat out going down a hill 4 times, Everything that can fall off will.  If it can break anywhere, it'll break there.  New, young trees are continually growing under the course rippling the roads, springs appear in the tarmac even in late August, flat out cranked over, a damp patch....

All the riders knew how tough it was, its a race for masochists, the manufacturers broke their bikes there again and again.  234 corners.  So everyone wanted to beat the English. 

The English wanted to carry on around the Clypse course, a short coastal course that is relatively flat.  Relatively.  The English Governing Body named the ACU were told by everyone bar the manufacturers of the Motor Cycles, "road bikes are so bad with single speed and no clutch and no brakes that Motor Cycling in Britian is finished if you don't help us? They are competing on price and not quality, the customer is suffering and riding rubbish!" 

So the ACU swallowed hard and announced a move from the Clypse course to "The Mountain Circuit" for 1909.  The British Manufacturers were peeved as they didn't want to be exposed for all the mistakes they'd been making, the bikes being like your Yanky boardtrack bikes. 

Step forwards Indian.  Two speeds and a clutch, chain rear wheel drive not belt, brakes.  That's before you say "V-twin" - which obviously (we know now) has an advantage because at that time it was thought twins had a disadvantage so they were allowed to be about 600cc (in inches still don't forget).   Indian truly were brilliant (I've read all the books) and taught the English a thing or two but won but just the once.  Think how tough it was for Indian........Between 1907 and 1934 Indian were the only non-English Motor Cycles to win a race - and that in 1911.  The TT was what every manufacturer wanted to win.  Grand Prix' didn't start till 1949.  You won a Tourist Trophy - you could live off the sales for a year!  

Today you want to win the Suzuka 8-hour (if you're Japanese), Le Mans, The Bol d'Or and the TT.  Daytona 200 was right up there for a while but they wrecked it.  

Listening to you lot play with the truth like it was 'hundereds & thousands' on a cake makes me glad I'll be out of this sh** soon.  I hope none of you are fathers...you shouldn't have that burden before you are yet responsible adults.
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9 hours ago, Taffy said:

The TT Races started in 1907.  There had been a race in Europe once a year and whoever won it hosted it the next year.  The rules were that you carried your spares, did your own work etc and it was to be a fair and honest race between Gentlemen. 

Puch of Austria won it in 1905.  So in 1906 everyone turned up by train and started the race, but everyone noticed all the "works" Puch riders, then they noticed the sidecar outfits full of spares that just happened to be parked every mile or so around the Roads Race circuit.  None of the Puchs "broke down", they won it by a country mile.  People were hacked off.  when you brake a valve and a mechanic replaces it or a tyre delaminates and they have a wheel ready.....anyway, you get the picture.  

On the train on the way home, Lord ?, Benjamin Franklyn (yes, he of the Indian Motorcycles fame) from Cork (that's in Eire lads OK?) and the two Collier Brothers that had just started Matchless said "phuq this for a game of soldiers.  we can't go back there again with those cheating bastards!  and we aren't allowed to race in the UK so where does that leave?"
"we'll the IoM has car racing....let's ask them if they'll hold a Motor Cycle race?"

That is how it started.  

The racing is being cancelled because there are 2-3,000 marshalls - all volunteers - the vast majority and the knowledge is in the grizzled old bastards that go there every year.  They book the Ferry with 364.5 days to go usually and now they don't think that they will get a fraction of that booking up.  The TT organisers can't get to May and then find out.  

Why is the race considered in its day the greatest?  that's easy...
Well, everyone raced standard bikes at the beginning, nobody knew what they were doing....nobody....so you pick the longest race in Europe, all the manufacturers at the time were settling down to be English or Italian but the English were the Force Majuer.  The course smashes you to pieces, you can't see where you are going properly for 50% of the lap, the track is a blur.  It gets very, very cold, The jetting has to be set for 100 feet to 2,000 feet.  The mountain which they climb is very steep and the bikes become breathless, the course is the second fastest in the World yet has 3x10mph hairpins, you are flat out going down a hill 4 times, Everything that can fall off will.  If it can break anywhere, it'll break there.  New, young trees are continually growing under the course rippling the roads, springs appear in the tarmac even in late August, flat out cranked over, a damp patch....

All the riders knew how tough it was, its a race for masochists, the manufacturers broke their bikes there again and again.  234 corners.  So everyone wanted to beat the English. 

The English wanted to carry on around the Clypse course, a short coastal course that is relatively flat.  Relatively.  The English Governing Body named the ACU were told by everyone bar the manufacturers of the Motor Cycles, "road bikes are so bad with single speed and no clutch and no brakes that Motor Cycling in Britian is finished if you don't help us? They are competing on price and not quality, the customer is suffering and riding rubbish!" 

So the ACU swallowed hard and announced a move from the Clypse course to "The Mountain Circuit" for 1909.  The British Manufacturers were peeved as they didn't want to be exposed for all the mistakes they'd been making, the bikes being like your Yanky boardtrack bikes. 

Step forwards Indian.  Two speeds and a clutch, chain rear wheel drive not belt, brakes.  That's before you say "V-twin" - which obviously (we know now) has an advantage because at that time it was thought twins had a disadvantage so they were allowed to be about 600cc (in inches still don't forget).   Indian truly were brilliant (I've read all the books) and taught the English a thing or two but won but just the once.  Think how tough it was for Indian........Between 1907 and 1934 Indian were the only non-English Motor Cycles to win a race - and that in 1911.  The TT was what every manufacturer wanted to win.  Grand Prix' didn't start till 1949.  You won a Tourist Trophy - you could live off the sales for a year!  

Today you want to win the Suzuka 8-hour (if you're Japanese), Le Mans, The Bol d'Or and the TT.  Daytona 200 was right up there for a while but they wrecked it.  

Listening to you lot play with the truth like it was 'hundereds & thousands' on a cake makes me glad I'll be out of this sh** soon.  I hope none of you are fathers...you shouldn't have that burden before you are yet responsible adults.
Taffy

Thanks for the history refresher. If I get a chance I’d really like to get there.

It really is a fabulous race and just like most other things, I’m sure it will be back, and we’ll all get through this. Today’s panic is tomorrow’s no big deal. 

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On 12/4/2020 at 9:28 AM, mxaniac said:

I don't really understand this race.  It's not a MotoGP race, so who rides it?  What governing body specifies the classes and rules?  Do factories get involved to win?  Is it like LeMans where the prestige lures in big teams?  Is it more like Superbike where they are production based bikes?

The entire point of this thing is balls. It's possibly the greatest spectacle of machismo still happening on planet earth. It requires great skill and unfettered abandon. "Professional Racers" ie corporate schilling dance monkeys, mostly think it's crazy, which is also correct. 

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21 minutes ago, HeavyRotationClassic said:

The entire point of this thing is balls. It's possibly the greatest spectacle of machismo still happening on planet earth. It requires great skill and unfettered abandon. "Professional Racers" ie corporate schilling dance monkeys, mostly think it's crazy, which is also correct. 

Ohh sorry, didn't you get the memo?  Macho is now calling someone out on Twitter.  Not first, you wait until you see what everyone wish is saying then join in. Screw that running with the bulls shit, that's for pussies.

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4 minutes ago, mxaniac said:

Ohh sorry, didn't you get the memo?  Macho is now calling someone out on Twitter.  Not first, you wait until you see what everyone wish is saying then join in. Screw that running with the bulls shit, that's for pussies.

Bravery, taking a stand for your beliefs, acting Cis Male, is all now Toxic Masculinity. 

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15 minutes ago, ah665 said:

R1. Crossplane

CBR 1000RR Fireblade

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1 minute ago, ah665 said:

The sound he is referring to is not a Honda. 

is it not

4 hours ago, burntvalves said:

the bike at 4:39

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so one of you guys called it a flatplane crank, the other called it a crossplane.  

which is it? 

the video that bryan posted at the bottom of page 1 matey.

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On 12/2/2020 at 10:10 AM, Bryan II said:

 

 

8 minutes ago, 00boob said:

 

is it not

?

The vid above. At that time, the lower pitched bike is not a Honda. The Hondas have the typical screamer sound. To me that lower sounding bike sounds like a crossplane R1. Its going too fast to see though haha.

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3 minutes ago, burntvalves said:

so one of you guys called it a flatplane crank, the other called it a crossplane.  

which is it? 

the video that bryan posted at the bottom of page 1 matey.

 

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3 minutes ago, burntvalves said:

so one of you guys called it a flatplane crank, the other called it a crossplane.  

which is it? 

the video that bryan posted at the bottom of page 1 matey.

My mistake.

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