mxaniac My Rides (8) Posted December 2, 2020 This is the first time I've seen pricing, I actually think they've made the difference compelling enough to sway buying decisions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mxaniac My Rides (8) Posted December 2, 2020 1 minute ago, mog said: What's the difference? Depends on the bike of course, the 450 is the same price as the Yamaha and Kawasaki, cheaper than the Honda, and $900 less than the Husqvarna. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ah665 My Rides (4) Posted December 2, 2020 It was talked about extensively in 1 of the other threads. I think they did a good job of hitting a price-point that makes sense. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mog Posted December 2, 2020 If I sold my 20 TC 250 and bought a gas gas 21 125 , I bet I could almost break even Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mog Posted December 2, 2020 I just looked and I can upgrade for less than 1k UK 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chicken-N-Waffles My Rides (3) Posted December 2, 2020 How is that an upgrade? Not feelin the toofitty? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mog Posted December 2, 2020 I do like the 250 , but it's hard to start ,I have a bad right knee , I never should have got the 18 and 19 150s ,I should have got the 125 , I think it's a more rounded power ,the 150 is mostly top ,the opposite of what you go to for a big bore I don't know what I want lol 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
777654321 Posted December 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, mog said: I do like the 250 , but it's hard to start ,I have a bad right knee , I never should have got the 18 and 19 150s ,I should have got the 125 , I think it's a more rounded power ,the 150 is mostly top ,the opposite of what you go to for a big bore I don't know what I want lol Get the new 125 ride the shit out of it and smile. I know i could do faster laps on a 250f but for enjoyment nothing compares to riding a crisp 125. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mxaniac My Rides (8) Posted December 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, mog said: I do like the 250 , but it's hard to start ,I have a bad right knee , I never should have got the 18 and 19 150s ,I should have got the 125 , I think it's a more rounded power ,the 150 is mostly top ,the opposite of what you go to for a big bore I don't know what I want lol I've had several knee surgeries and cadaver parts in both knees. If I stand on a bike stand with my left leg the first time I start the bike each day it makes a big difference. The rest of the day just seems to go easier after it's warmed up and I avoided the initial strain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mog Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, mxaniac said: I've had several knee surgeries and cadaver parts in both knees. If I stand on a bike stand with my left leg the first time I start the bike each day it makes a big difference. The rest of the day just seems to go easier after it's warmed up and I avoided the initial strain. The first kick is the worst ,I sometimes get a friend to start it from cold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indy rider My Rides (2) Posted December 3, 2020 4 hours ago, mog said: I do like the 250 , but it's hard to start ,I have a bad right knee , I never should have got the 18 and 19 150s ,I should have got the 125 , I think it's a more rounded power ,the 150 is mostly top ,the opposite of what you go to for a big bore I don't know what I want lol Poor guy. I feel so free ever since I decided to stick with Yamaha 2 strokes, I don't have even think about what the new model is going to be like. BNG!🤣 If it weren't for you guys talking about shootouts, I wouldn't even know who has been winning them...as I haven't read or watched one for at least three years now. I don't care what the others have or are doing. I just ride what I got and every few years swap it for a new one. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
777654321 Posted December 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, indy rider said: Poor guy. I feel so free ever since I decided to stick with Yamaha 2 strokes, I don't have even think about what the new model is going to be like. BNG!🤣 If it weren't for you guys talking about shootouts, I wouldn't even know who has been winning them...as I haven't read or watched one for at least three years now. I don't care what the others have or are doing. I just ride what I got and every few years swap it for a new one. There's something sexy in that post 🤣 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mxaniac My Rides (8) Posted December 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, indy rider said: Poor guy. I feel so free ever since I decided to stick with Yamaha 2 strokes, I don't have even think about what the new model is going to be like. BNG!🤣 If it weren't for you guys talking about shootouts, I wouldn't even know who has been winning them...as I haven't read or watched one for at least three years now. I don't care what the others have or are doing. I just ride what I got and every few years swap it for a new one. Some good logic there. Brilliant really, I've got to give you credit. Set your baseline for the most disappointing bike ever and then nothing can get worse! 😆😆😆 I know I know many people love that bike. I didn't like them in 2005, I didn't like them in 2006 with the new forks, and I still don't like them in 2020. It's just me I suppose, they just aren't my cup of tea. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indy rider My Rides (2) Posted December 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, mxaniac said: Some good logic there. Brilliant really, I've got to give you credit. Set your baseline for the most disappointing bike ever and then nothing can get worse! 😆😆😆 I know I know many people love that bike. I didn't like them in 2005, I didn't like them in 2006 with the new forks, and I still don't like them in 2020. It's just me I suppose, they just aren't my cup of tea. It's all in the rider. Skill level and fitness determines your speed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mxaniac My Rides (8) Posted December 3, 2020 19 minutes ago, indy rider said: It's all in the rider. Skill level and fitness determines your speed. I had a friend that was always the better faster rider than I. It would be a cold day in hell before he could best me in a race. He just didn't have what it takes mentally to focus and perform in front of a crowd. But yes, other than the rare exceptions like I mentioned, I agree with you. I've seen world class talent that could look good on a Hodaka. Never mind the time a fast pro was on my bike and my wife walks up, I didn't know your bike could go that fast...... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MANIAC998 My Rides (6) Posted December 3, 2020 It's always rewarding watching a Pro man-handle your bike properly around a track at warp 9. And humbling. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ah665 My Rides (4) Posted December 3, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, mxaniac said: Some good logic there. Brilliant really, I've got to give you credit. Set your baseline for the most disappointing bike ever and then nothing can get worse! 😆😆😆 I know I know many people love that bike. I didn't like them in 2005, I didn't like them in 2006 with the new forks, and I still don't like them in 2020. It's just me I suppose, they just aren't my cup of tea. 11 hours ago, indy rider said: It's all in the rider. Skill level and fitness determines your speed. Both the YZ125/250 are as good as any bike on the market. Not saying they are the best bike for everyone, but in general, they are such well-rounded bikes and very versatile. I don't regret getting my YZ over a KTM/Husky 1 bit. Especially since it took an investment to get my Husky 350 suspension sorted out to my liking, so I would've had to do the same thing to the Husky 2 stroke, had I gone that route. The YZ was great stock. A few bolt-ons for the motor and that bike isn't holding me back 1 bit. Edited December 3, 2020 by ah665 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redrider144 Posted December 3, 2020 16 hours ago, mog said: don't know what I want lol YZ250F 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mog Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, redrider144 said: YZ250F I thought about it ,too tall and wide imo .. And I hear not very reliable in recent years 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
