MotorBoatin Posted February 23 1 hour ago, mog said: They ditched the 19 frame and went back to the 18 frame ,then they ditched the 18 frame and went back to the 19 lol People show how little they know about racing lol I don't take it personally , I'm just trying to show how testing works You take just about EVERYTHING personally 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotorBoatin Posted February 23 1 hour ago, RacingDVD said: You guys really can not read on the other side of the pond can you? Webb had success in Orlando 1 and he wanted to run the same setup in Orlando 2. (using the spring shock) That's all... it does not mean he does not want to use the air shock in next races. I doubt he’ll go back to using it this year In his mind he won with a spring and that’s what works. If he starts losing to another orange/white/red KTM with air he might consider changing. Just like Sleeter said it’s all mind games 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capt. Fun Police Posted February 23 KTM riders work for KTM. KTM's number 1 goal is to sell bikes. An air shock is probably lighter, when/if it becomes better than a spring shock, then KTM and their riders will go with it. If I run a inner tube in my tires, and the feel is better than a Moose, I will run the inner tube until the feel of the Moose improves... Pro Forum: "I'm smarter"... "NO, I'M SMARTER! 😠" 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MANIAC998 My Rides (6) Posted February 23 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Capt. Fun Police said: Pro Forum: "I'm smarter"... "NO, I'M SMARTER! 😠" Edited February 23 by MANIAC998 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redrider144 Posted February 23 5 hours ago, RacingDVD said: You guys really can not read on the other side of the pond can you? Webb had success in Orlando 1 and he wanted to run the same setup in Orlando 2. (using the spring shock) That's all... it does not mean he does not want to use the air shock in next races. If we're calling replacing the air shock with a spring shock as a mere changing of setup, then Barcia simply "switched setups" between last year and this year. 1 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ah665 My Rides (4) Posted February 23 As far as the air shock thing, I thought the point was that they are developing it and planning on putting it into production, which will likely give them an edge in the future. Whether Webb uses it or not, they are still developing it. And KTM is taking the lead right now as far as features on their bikes. And before anyone accuses me of fanboying, mine is for sale, so I don't want to hear it lol. I'm just saying, that I think their team is great and their bike is obviously working very well. And the same could be said about Honda. But Hondas production bike was basically just trying to catch up to what KTM already had. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redrider144 Posted February 23 6 hours ago, mog said: They ditched the 19 frame and went back to the 18 frame ,then they ditched the 18 frame and went back to the 19 lol People show how little they know about racing lol I'll bet I can find some past comments from you about the 19 frame being too stiff. What's the wager? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redrider144 Posted February 23 (edited) On 6/10/2020 at 9:24 AM, mog said: The 19 frame was based on the factory bike and everyone hated that 6 hours ago, mog said: They ditched the 19 frame and went back to the 18 frame ,then they ditched the 18 frame and went back to the 19 lol People show how little they know about racing lol I don't take it personally , I'm just trying to show how testing works Hmmmmmmmmmm Edited February 23 by redrider144 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaconne Posted February 23 17 minutes ago, redrider144 said: Hmmmmmmmmmm MOG = Mover Of Goalposts.😀 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redrider144 Posted February 23 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chaconne said: MOG = Mover Of Goalposts.😀 Everyone hated the 19 frame => just routine changing of setup. Barcia simply changed to a new setup this year vs last year. It's routine according to mog. Edited February 23 by redrider144 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RacingDVD Posted February 23 lol, I read you comments but I have trouble understanding what you are trying to say. 😊 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
150dirtcomber Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, RacingDVD said: lol, I read you comments but I have trouble understanding what you are trying to say. 😊 The TT cycle 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MotorBoatin Posted February 23 1 hour ago, redrider144 said: If we're calling replacing the air shock with a spring shock as a mere changing of setup, then Barcia simply "switched setups" between last year and this year. Kenny isn't on a new bike this year He's running updated settings 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solimine Posted February 23 (edited) 16 hours ago, GBow521 said: Racing is simply a drag race from corner to corner is one of the dumbest things to say about supercross. You just don't get it, do you? I presume you're a spectator. I made the mistake of thinking that SX riders would actually participate in these discussions. Edited February 23 by solimine punctuation and less abrasive text 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chaconne Posted February 23 6 minutes ago, solimine said: You just don't get it do you? I presume you're a spectator. I made the mistake of thinking that top ten riders would actually participate in these discussions. Ya those damn spectators ...😄 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KTMRider4Life Posted February 23 15 minutes ago, solimine said: You just don't get it, do you? I presume you're a spectator. I made the mistake of thinking that SX riders would actually participate in these discussions. So you race supercross? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redrider144 Posted February 23 16 hours ago, GBow521 said: Racing is simply a drag race from corner to corner is one of the dumbest things to say about supercross. Agreed. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
redrider144 Posted February 23 31 minutes ago, solimine said: You just don't get it, do you? It's been a long time since we had a new toy to play with in here. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
150dirtcomber Posted February 23 27 minutes ago, KTMRider4Life said: So you race supercross? I'm enjoying the fact that there's 2 separate threads with 2 separate posters this week where this question has been posed. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
solimine Posted February 23 39 minutes ago, Chaconne said: Ya those damn spectators ...😄 Nice photo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
