I just wanted to stop by today and say HOW happy I am for NOT buying a Honda 650R. Instead I bought a KTM 625 SXC. The reason I say this is, I was out today and this guy riding a 650 pulled up beside me on a trail (2track) and wanted to race. So naturally I gave in to his wishes. We started off almost neck-in-neck 1st-2nd gear. That is when the KTM really showes off it's better HP. I roosted that guy all day. He was really impressed on how I could have a almost stock bike and he spent almost $2000 "uncorking" (to use a phrase of you honda owners) his bike and STILL he could not even keep up with the ol' KTM. So I just wanted to extend my thanks for buying up all of the 650's so I could get a KTM.