Guys, take a moment and look at this from the "Tree Hugging Enviro-Nazi" point of view. Their Goal: Get all OHVs out of the woods and get evil humans out of large tracts of land. They work backwards folks. Given the goal above they bring up noise, polution, habitat, erosion, anything and everything they can dream up to reach their goal. So we need to fight back on all fronts. By not letting them push through laws and rules on the leagal side. And by being responsible users of all of these areas so their arguments do not stand up to ours. I was talking with a Pike National Forest Ranger at a recent work party at the Rampart Range OHV area (closest trail system to Denver) and he told me that the fact that over 20,000 man hours of volenteer trail maintenace coordinated with the park service is logged every year goes a long way twards the OHV community staying on the good side of the rangers. My $.02 is. Be responsible, give back, and fight the Enviro-Nazis every chance you get.