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WEll as a quadder when it comes to hill climbs and really tight trails im really missing the extra 2 wheels. I guess i need alot of practice on hill climbs but what is the best way to attack them?

With the stock tires im haveing ALOT of trouble getting up these. Most of them are really steep some with rocks sticking out that when you hit it fast the front wheel want to come flying up.

Well anyway this is about the 2nd time it happened and its very scary. I cant romp on it to get a running start on this one hill climb, too many trees. And if you hit it too fast you will fly over the other side (the hillclimb goes up to a ridge about 6 ft wide)

anyway i was in 1st shifted to second and kept it pinned...it just made it to the top, except it was spinning like crazy and i took both feet of the pegs (i have that problem with going up hillclimbs) well after that it was like doing a superman up the entire hillclimb with neither foot anywhere near the bike. I made it but the bike almost did a backflip onto me near the top

How do you go about getting up steep inclines? Sitting down? standing? im used to quads...not bikes :thumbsup:

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No expert here but here is my experience so far: If it's bumpy hillclimb standup on the pegs. You should be able to read your number plate on the steep ones. If you're seated you'll get bumped off the pegs & just be hanging on.

Smooooth really helps too. Try to m,aintain your momentum by picking the best line. It really takes concentration.

Good luck! :thumbsup:

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I'm a new rider too (no quad experience though) and I couldn't believe the difference it made when I changed the front sprocket to a smaller one. Way more low end power for the climbs.

I won't discuss technique as I suck still :thumbsup: but I am getting better. Ouch.

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ill try standing up...but its kinda freaky cause i dont want to loose traction and come to a stop in the middle of a steep hilclimb like i did already

and i hear ya when i was almost off the bike i was only holding on my the bars and the harder i held on the more i twisted the throttle and the bike started to lift

i have off of work tomorrow so im gonna go to a place up here called 7 hills...its a quarry with a ton of hillclimbs and try to tackle the smaller ones then work up and see whats best for me instead of hitting the huge ones right off the bat.

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i was also thinking of dropping a tooth in the front...but i dont want to really sacrifice topend really that much? i mean i honestly find bottom end a little shitty. on the steep hillclimbs first gear is too low, second kinda screams and 3rd will bog down...its kinda like wishing for a 2 1/2 gear, lol

so i might actually get a smaller front

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Well, the first thing you want to do is take a really big saw and cut the quad in half, then shove it over a cliff. That will get you introduced to downhill. :awww:

Sounds like you're riding tight rocky woodsy trails. That's just what the CRF230F was made for! The "F" standing for Fun.

One of the things you must check is the tire pressure. If the air pressure is too high you're gonna spin the wheels.. and spin, and spin.... If you still have the stock Pirelli's and the terrain is not too hardpacked, take the rear air pressure down to about 10-12 lbs. That will help the traction. The front can stay around 12-14 lbs. Unless it's so rocky you might get a pinch flat in the front. Then you want to up the pressure a little more. But keep it lower in the rear.

Rocks suck. Lots of rocks suck more. Like Toast said, stay off the seat. Each bounce from the rear will send you flying in all directions. That's how those silly videos are made, with guys' legs in the "Flying V" formation. :lol:

Keep your head and elbows UP, keep your knees firmly against the side of the fuel tank, and go like hell. If you've got the "power up kit" and the bike is breathing well, you should be able to get up those hills in high 2nd or low 3rd. If you bog, quickly downshift. I'm sure you know all that from riding that dust maker. :thumbsup:

Good luck man. BTW, where do you ride? What type of terrain besides a hill and rocks? This might help others help you in your hill climbing adventure.

Oh, btw2... once you've gotten used to two wheels, you won't miss those other two. They just get in the way. :devil:

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ill try standing up...but its kinda freaky cause i dont want to loose traction and come to a stop in the middle of a steep hilclimb like i did already

That's why you want to stand. Let the rear end do what it does best. Let it bounce around and spin as it will do. Find the traction where it may lie. You are there to guide the bike uphill, not be a part of the bouncing around.

You might be trying hills you're not ready for. Practice on the smaller, less steep hills. Then little by little go bigger and steeper. Practice practice practice. You'll get it.

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I agree with Toast and Dirtdaddy. Just take your time getting accustomed to your new mount ! try to steer clear of the nastiest stuff until you're more confident in your skill's and the handling of your bike. Practice makes perfect. By the way, The area you have been describing sounds like a lot of fun. Those are the kinds of trails I admire and try to find! Good luck, and be safe.

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Loose traction is tough.

There is one hill. Zero run at it, and its really steep and is about 2 feet of gravel and apple sized rocks.

I find the firmest ground, kick it into second on my 400, and hold it wide open. I sit down on this particular hill to get as much traction as possible. I lean back till it starts to wheelie, then lean forward just a little.

Its easier on a fourstroke. My riding buddy with a KDX220 had to try this hill a bunch of times. He finally made it up, in third gear, absolutely tapped. I was laughin so hard as huge rocks were flying everywhere and he came up this hill bouncing around with the back tire spinning at Mach 3. Never heard a KDX make those kinds of noises before :thumbsup:

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hmm...you guys like these trails :thumbsup:...its fun on a quad...but man you bounce around and fly every which way over here...

and hell with apple sized rocks these rochs are the size of watermelons. We ride on old rr tracks and quarry trails. The quarry trails are SUPER SUPER tight...how tight? well i was going a little too fast on my old 400ex and i couldnt fit between a tree and a fence, well the tire cliped the tree in about 2nd gear and the bike and i rolled down a quarry cliff a couple times until we hit a tree...not fun.

anyway the quarry trails are rock...and only rocks really. Here its called the "slate Belt" cause there is a TON of slate and most all the hillclimbs are slate or large rocks in the way and at the top of most all climbs the lips go almost verticle...so if you dont make it, you have a harsh roll back down.

The other trails are the rr tracks. They have no actual tracks left but are that black soot that you just spin spin spin like crazy. Then they lead to the mountain trails that all rocks again and super muddy. I had a hard time yesterday. With all the rain we got last week it was super muddy and the quads that i ride with made ruts about 6in -1 ft deep. I tried to ride in the middle but the rear went in one rut and the front in alother and i was riding sideways for a about 20 feet.

these trails are fun, but if you let down yer gaurd for a min...your gonna fall HARD :devil:

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well it sounds like you are complaining. Why would they be fun if your complaining??? i think you need to step it down a notch i mean quads are so easy to ride i love to ride my lil brothers quad all the time (it is a screamer for a 90) but one of these bikes is so hard to ride in that stuff cause of it's bad suspension and other various things but it is a good hillclimber i have takin' my lil 150 up vertical lips before and it was fun :thumbsup:

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yeah i just ordered a 12 tooth front sprocket from sprocket specialists yesterday can't wait to try it out

I thought you did the back already???

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i was also thinking of dropping a tooth in the front...but i dont want to really sacrifice topend really that much? i mean i honestly find bottom end a little shitty. on the steep hillclimbs first gear is too low, second kinda screams and 3rd will bog down...its kinda like wishing for a 2 1/2 gear, lol so i might actually get a smaller front

My goal is for more technical stuff and stay away from the really fast stuff that is sure to hurt my aging body when I fly off the bike :thumbsup: so the reduction in speed wasn't a big concern. Having said that, I did keep the 13t to put back on in Baja if need be.

I can now go up a good chunk of the hills in 2nd before switching down to 1st. Speed definitely helps when attempting a decent hill on the 150 so being able to go up in 2nd is a bonus. 2nd with the 12t is still faster than 1st was with the 13t.

I just realized something.. is the CRF230 stock a 13t front and a 50t rear?? The CRF150 is 13/48. You might want to check what the implications are on changing to a 12t (chain length, etc).. or see whether a 52 rear is better.

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hmm...you guys like these trails ...its fun on a quad...but man you bounce around and fly every which way over here...

and hell with apple sized rocks these rochs are the size of watermelons. We ride on old rr tracks and quarry trails. The quarry trails are SUPER SUPER tight...how tight? well i was going a little too fast on my old 400ex and i couldnt fit between a tree and a fence, well the tire cliped the tree in about 2nd gear and the bike and i rolled down a quarry cliff a couple times until we hit a tree...not fun.

anyway the quarry trails are rock...and only rocks really. Here its called the "slate Belt" cause there is a TON of slate and most all the hillclimbs are slate or large rocks in the way and at the top of most all climbs the lips go almost verticle...so if you dont make it, you have a harsh roll back down.

The other trails are the rr tracks. They have no actual tracks left but are that black soot that you just spin spin spin like crazy. Then they lead to the mountain trails that all rocks again and super muddy. I had a hard time yesterday. With all the rain we got last week it was super muddy and the quads that i ride with made ruts about 6in -1 ft deep. I tried to ride in the middle but the rear went in one rut and the front in alother and i was riding sideways for a about 20 feet.

these trails are fun, but if you let down yer gaurd for a min...your gonna fall HARD

Sounds like you need a trials tire, i hear they kick a$$ when it comes to hard surfaces especialy rock. Knobbies dont hook up on rock to good. Here you go Read the whole thing!

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well it sounds like you are complaining. Why would they be fun if your complaining??? i think you need to step it down a notch i mean quads are so easy to ride i love to ride my lil brothers quad all the time (it is a screamer for a 90) but one of these bikes is so hard to ride in that stuff cause of it's bad suspension and other various things but it is a good hillclimber i have takin' my lil 150 up vertical lips before and it was fun :devil:

what do you mean i was complaining? i was asking a simple question to get a simple answer...

I went riding again today...super deep mud im not good at the deep stuff so thats what i dont like. I was in ruts that quads with 25'' rear tires were getting stuck on the skid plates. But as long as i went straight i didnt really even spin.

Im getting better. On the mountain trails with rocks i keep right behind a raptor...sometimes he was going too slow so i was in 4th flying over rocks...its getting better. On some trails now its alot better without 2 extra wheels...but some spots its good.

and if i was complaining and didnt like the bike do you think i would still ride it every day?? :thumbsup:

Granted im getting used to is and prob riding a little too fast in some areas :awww:

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PRACTICE! I wish it was muddy here all the time. I love riding mud, although it gets tricky. We get stuck a lot when we ride...

Last time, I went through the mud puddle first. Sank my bike up to the front fender. Heckuva time (3 of us) getting it out. It was fun :thumbsup:

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