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Here is a picture I took from my favorite hunting spot. I parked my quad at the end of the road but after hiking 1.5-2 miles in and seeing no deer I found out why. This pic is taken about 2 miles into a wilderness/roadless area. The stupid quad road hunters are too lazy to get off their quad and hunt. the dumb jerks drive right past the best hunting in this whole basin. Really makes me mad. this is what will be the end to ohv use and motorcycle use in the future. I don't know what the answer is but even as a quad user and motorcycle rider and a hunter this sickens me. meadowruts.jpg

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Im an avid hunter, and I see this everywhere I go. I hunt in very remote spots in the adirondack mountains and right through the woods there will be quad tracks. Obviously Im a dirtbiker, first and foremost. However, this will cause a crack down on ORV's, because hunters will complain, and since ORV's are the lowest on the totem pole, will be kicked out.

It seems as if hunting is just an excuse to drink , as opposed to actual hunting anyway.

Chris

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Gee guys is this TT or the sierra club forum? :cry:

never thought I'd hear another ORV rider talk (even jokingly) about stringing wire across a trail. I bet you'd think it was real funny if it was your favorite riding area that someone put wire at.

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Quit yer crying..they were obviously there first that day :cry: There are enough woods for everyone. Those trails took a bit to make..likely not in one day unless that quad was a banshee..or the same quad going back and forth for awhile.

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This thread turns my stomach.

What is wrong with you guys? :cry: :cry:

This is a serious and complex issue. Grab a clue. :cry: :cry:

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We cant go blaming this issure entirely on quads. (although I'd like to) Obviously the trail in the pic was clearly pounded out by our 4 wheeled sofas.

This kind of issue is where you seperate the men from the boys. Many do not realize this but hunters/sportsmen are the largest groups behind wildlife habitat conservation. ie: Ducks Unlimited, Phesants Forever and so on... The Sierra club & other local treehugging outfits just like to take credit. But its money from the hunting/fishing licenses that go towards the government funding of these projects.

Now, most hunters can realize how important this is, but there are always a few out there who wont give a damn and dont really know what they are doing.

Unfortuantely there are already too many dirtbikers who dont give a damn. They just want to ride & think there will always be places to ride.

With that kind of mentality there wont me many places left to ride or hunt. The only way we will be able to enjoy the outdoors is though the escort of a granola munchin hippie tour guide employed by a government conservation program.

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Without hunters there would have been no game and no wilds 125 years ago. Hunters saved it all. Do your homework.

Read some history, guys.

Take the power away from the Greeinies. :cry: :cry:

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is that legal? you should lay some barbwire on the trail so next time they come there they will regret it :cry:

yeah that is a great idea. That is sarcasm if you didn't catch that.

This is a roadless/wilderness area. I could care less if they made they road on their property. It is just bad to see this stuff out in the middle of the wilderness.

And about being mad about them being there first, That can't be farther from the truth, I know these lazy bums won't hunt. they just ride around. But this kind of pressure does affect the animals in the area.

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yep, as you can plainly see, our days of riding public land are numbered.....a few very bad apples will surely ruin it for all of us.....

if you happen to catch these jerks, remember, it's a remote area....noone will find them, accept the buzzards....

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Quit yer crying..they were obviously there first that day :cry: There are enough woods for everyone. Those trails took a bit to make..likely not in one day unless that quad was a banshee..or the same quad going back and forth for awhile.

&%$#@!?

Geeze people read the post! This was in a roadless/widerness area! THIS is the reason we are losing the battle to keep riding areas open!

Pull your head out of your :cry:

Last time I talked to the local ranger, he made the comment that "More damage is done during the hunting season, than that rest of the summer combined." All due to riding "off-trail"

I am a hunter myself, so don't think I'm anti-hunting. But this will kill our sport.

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I am a hunter myself, so don't think I'm anti-hunting. But this will kill our sport.

It will kill both sports. The point is avoid off trail travel and if you see things like this or people doing it, talk to them about it. I personally wish that the timber companies would open their gates during hunting season. It would put an end to making trails around gates. It seems as if they open the gates in butte county but in trinity county they are almost all locked, yet there is almost always a road built around them. So the gates don't keep people out, just motivates them to try harder to get around them.

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I am a hunter myself, so don't think I'm anti-hunting. But this will kill our sport.

It will kill both sports. The point is avoid off trail travel and if you see things like this or people doing it, talk to them about it. I personally wish that the timber companies would open their gates during hunting season. It would put an end to making trails around gates. It seems as if they open the gates in butte county but in trinity county they are almost all locked, yet there is almost always a road built around them. So the gates don't keep people out, just motivates them to try harder to get around them.

I agree up to a point. I think Killing off hunting (no pun intended) will be harder to do. Why because they have large supported organizatons like the NRA (while not directly hunting per se.)

Hunting brings in 3x more tourist revenue to Colorado than skiing, and skiing brings in 1000X more money than OHV.

So who is gonna lose?

Hunting will still be available, but you won't be able to do it using an ATV.

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I dont see why this thread is pissing people off. Im a hunter, a dirtbiker, and as far from being a liberal or a greenie as could possibly be. However, if your too stupid to realize that when people feel they can drive there 4x4 and ATVs anywhere, that the sport is in grave danger. ORV users are already not held in high regard, we dont need to be giving more reason why to hate us . Stay on the damn trail.

Chris

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once the nukes have fallen and civilization is in tatters and there are no roads and no idiots on quads and a scarce few hunters actually hunting to survive the apocolypse.. this issue won't even exist.

meanwhile, i say we kill two birds with one stone and start hunting quad riders. :cry:

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This pic is taken about 2 miles into a wilderness/roadless area.

It is illegal to take a motorized vehicle into a Wilderness area.

It is illegal to take any wheeled vehicle or cart into a Wilderness area (I'm almost positive).

I have to assume that those who don't think this is a legitimate gripe didn't realize those points.

Those who do this are only aiding the environmentalists in taking away our past-time, hobby and sport. This IS their ammunition.

If you side with those that ride through Wilderness areas, then you side with the environmentalist nutjobs who are taking away our places to ride.

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They should have drive-through hunting areas with deer tied to a tree and a complementery six-pack. Maybe this will keep these hunters out of the wilderness.

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