I know I am gonna get flamed for this but I have to post it. I sold that ticking time bomb of a CRF I had and bought an 04 leftover 200exc for $4500 bucks. This is the best bike I have ever owned. After having spent over $2000 at Factory Connection on suspension front and rear, I brought home the 200, set the sag and proceeded to grin. It takes anything I can throw at it and more, it is the smoothest and most tractable bike I have ever owned. I know there are alot of people out there such as my riding buddy that have never had a lick of trouble out of their CRF's, but mine was a big POS!!! That thing cost me more money in maintenance that my last 3 bikes put together. I am also way faster on the pumpkin in the woods and that was a big worry for me when going to a smaller bike. This thing feels like it weighs 60 pounds less and the weight and size of the 450 might have been an issue because of my size (140 pounds). Not to mention that I got a 6 month warranty, free Motorex premix, an extra needle, mainjet, and pilot jet and a decent manual. For now, Honda can $*ck it. Performance in exchange for reliability is for the birds. Valves are not "regular" maintenance in my eyes and my little 200 will walk most guys on 450's in the woods simply cause its so nimble and hooks up, and will run up near 80 mph in the open. Farewell my friends, its been real and I wish you all better luck than I had.