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Should I buy a 2004 crf250 or a 2smoke 125

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I'm just getting back into riding. Semi-fast old guy, mxer. Rode my friend's 02 and 04 crf450. I really liked them both and was surprised how easy they were to ride, however when I got tired they became a handful. Been thinking of a used 04 125 two stroke or a CRF250. I don't ride alot and I don't have a lot of time for maintenance. From reading this forum for a few months it sounds as if the CRF250 might be a reliablity and maintenance headache. I've always had good luck with 125 two strokes, with my riding style they hold up well. Any opinions?

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I guess it depends on how serious you are and what exactly your looking for. If you are serious about racing and want to turn the fastest possible lap times you are capable of, I would tell you to get a 250f, preferably Honda, simply because they are easier to go fast on than a 125, easier to ride. My Honda is my first 4 stroke but I am pleased with its reliability, just got valves checked after about 55-60 hours and everything checked out OK. There is nothing wrong with a 125, they are alot of fun to ride, but in my opinion, you are at a serious disadvantage racing against 250f's on a 125.

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defiantly the 250f. way easier to ride and get fast on. a lot smoother and would be a huge advantage in a race over a 125.

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You said that, when you got tired the 450 became a handfull. Generally when you get tired, riding a powerful mx bike like that can be a handful. I love my CRF250R and the maitenence doesnt bother me. If you want a smooth shifting bike, with crisp throttle response, get the four-stroke. The 125's are just becoming extinct now.

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I just finished with the first long hard ride on my 05 250 F. Broke it down to do the required inspection and let me tell you, I ordered a pizza, had the top off, valves checked, top back on, oil and filter changed, and was warming it up checking for leaks by the time the pizza arrived.

Granted I am a mechanic by trade but not on dirtbikes so it is really not that bad. I was done completely in 45 minutes. It taked me longer to wash and lube a bike after a race than it does to do the required maintenance.

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I'm just getting back into riding. Semi-fast old guy, mxer. Rode my friend's 02 and 04 crf450. I really liked them both and was surprised how easy they were to ride, however when I got tired they became a handful. Been thinking of a used 04 125 two stroke or a CRF250. I don't ride alot and I don't have a lot of time for maintenance. From reading this forum for a few months it sounds as if the CRF250 might be a reliablity and maintenance headache. I've always had good luck with 125 two strokes, with my riding style they hold up well. Any opinions?

I owned both a CR250F and a YZ125 at the same time. The CRF is the most FUN motorcycle I've owned, period. Even at 230 pounds, I'm winning Races in the "oldtimers" novice class.... the other guys get tired on their 450's and slow down...I'm as fast on lap 8 as lap 1. Only down side is you won't get many Holes shots. 😢

Only work it takes over the two stroke is oil changes... It's been solid otherwise. But as far as $$$ they are GIVING AWAY used 125 2 smokes...resale is really in the tank on 2 smokes in general, so if you want one you should be able to find a bargin! 😢

Is this the same Steve_M that used to hang around Sunrise and Edwards? 😢

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I've been riding a 125 two smoker for about two years.

If you want to compete in the vet classes, you will find yourself at a disadvantage against any of the four strokes (especially 450's). First, you'll lose the starts badly, and second, you'll get pulled out of every corner.

Yes, there are those 125 specialists (I'm not one of them) who give everybody on bigger bikes a headache. But these guys are rare and always have to work through the pack (and rarely win).

If you don't want to race (just use it as playbike) a 125 may be a good choice. Less bucks and maintenance worries, but still a hoot to ride.

But the four stroke would be a much better race bike and a superior mount if you went on real gnarly trail ride.

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I am not trying to offend, but the question is quite simple. GO FOR THE 4-stroke! So much simpler to ride fast and no oil/gas to mix.

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if you are in the shape of most of us old farts you can go faster longer on a 4stk.then a 125 if you don't think i am wrong get your hands on any 125 , a crf250 ,a track and a clock do 5 laps on booth and see for your self i did it and now ride a crf250

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I am in the same boat as you...38 year old former expert level mx racer. Among other bikes I have the following 2004 XR400 dual sport, 1999 YZ125 (raced my last national at Unadilla 1999 on this bike) and a 2004 CRF250R.

I will tell you that the 2004 CRF250R is the most impressive bike...the technology and capability are unbelievable, HOWEVER, the thing burns more oil and requires more maintenance thatn anything I have ever owned, except for perhaps a Maico that I vintage raced for a while. I will admit that I have not had a serious mechanical failure, just the oil burning and constant valve adjusting, but I have not ridden it much, and I hate to fathom the thought of spending $150 per valve should something happen. I am a stickler for maintenance (oil changes, air filer cleaning every ride without exception, etc)...a Honda that burns oil...I still can't get over that.

Anyway...

I ride the YZ125 the most. It is light, has fairly broad power for a small bore, and with the 8 ounce Steahly flywheel, makes a superb off road bike I can still take it to the track. The best part is that it ALWAYS starts within two kicks, is not finicky about jetting, and has NEVER suffered a mechanical failure. I am a little heavier than your normal 125 pilot at 170 pounds, but that makes the suspension perfect for off road and it is still fine for most everything at the track. All that I have had to do in the the way of maintenance is the normal chassis mainenance and two pistons. Oh yes, I had to clean the carburetor once after not draining it for the winter...took about half an hour, I would hate to even think about having to deal with the carburetor on the CRF. The CRF is amazing it its compactness but it is hard to work on compared to the YZ.

I will agree, the 250F's will evenually make the 125's extinct on the track...the spread of power is very nice and in reality, they only have to last for practice, qualifying, and two motos. However, for pure fun, I always grab the YZ125. In fact, I am thinking abut upgrading to the 2005 YZ125, and around here (Oregon/Washington), you can buy one for about $4800, whereas the CRF250 sells for around $5800. Sure you have to mix gas and oil, but you only have to change transmission oil, and I would call that a push.

Another bike yu should look at is a 2004 KTM 200SX, if you don't mind a Euro bike. Excellent poer in a 125 chassis--and you can pick them up for $4000 new!

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