OscarTHEGrouch   Posted December 9, 2004 do you think we will see 4 strokes in the x games this year for freestyle ? i wonder why nobody used them last year 😢 Travis pastrana used a 125 so maybe someone will use a 250 or 450 4 stroke this year. I think that would be a nice leap forward for the 4 strokes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crf230bia369   Posted December 9, 2004 Arent the 450 thumpers like 20 lbs heavier than the 250 2-strokes? Maybe that has something to do with it. 😢 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bikedude127   Posted December 9, 2004 There were lots of thumpers in the Supermotard event... 😢 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
st3ve   Posted December 9, 2004 they are at disadvantage with the extra weight - vines used to freestyle a yz426 and one of the distler brothers rides a crf450, but theres no need for them. The only time and freerider could use the extra mmph is for throwin down in the hills (dunes). this one place aspect of off-road riding that wont be taken over by trends and power hungry newbies 😢 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flyin Dub   Posted December 9, 2004 this one place aspect of off-road riding that wont be taken over by trends and power hungry newbies 😢 Trends? Oh, you mean like baggy pants, body art, colored tires, and decorative spikes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
st3ve   Posted December 9, 2004 Trends? Oh, you mean like baggy pants, body art, colored tires, and decorative spikes. yup, exactly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kev_XR Â Â My Rides (4) Posted December 9, 2004 You'll see a few more, but there are still areas where 2-strokes are better. FMX Hare Scrambles Trials. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
targetdrone   Posted December 9, 2004 do you think we will see 4 strokes in the x games this year for freestyle ? i wonder why nobody used them last year <snip> I think that would be a nice leap forward for the 4 strokes. You won't see them until the manufacturers and sponsors want them on 4-strokes to help persuade sales, which probably won't happen until new smokers aren't being sold anymore. Just my opinion...😢 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1dustries   Posted December 9, 2004 I believe that Cary Hart rides a CRF450 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
motoxracer595 Â Â Posted December 9, 2004 they wont use 4 strokes too heavy and different type of riding 2 strokes are better to use for that stop and go and mess around kinda stuff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr Smith   Posted December 9, 2004 Two words: Reciprocating mass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WRider995 Â Â Posted December 9, 2004 MXRACER595 has it right. The 2-strokes have an advantage being a little bit lighter. But weight isn't everything or they would all use 125's. The abrupt power delivery matches up nicely with the whip is sideways freestyle antics. I guess that's still one area the ring dingers are still king. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CRFiddyRyder   Posted December 9, 2004 but there are still areas where 2-strokes are better. And always will be 😢 4 strokes are too heavy for FMX, and 2 strokes are more predictable jumpers, in my opinion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beer_studd_76   Posted December 9, 2004 do you think we will see 4 strokes in the x games this year for freestyle? no. they're still too heavy i wonder why nobody used them last year 😢 well, probably because they were too heavy last year as well Travis pastrana used a 125 so maybe someone will use a 250 or 450 4 stroke this year. well, 125's are actually lighter than 250s. if i had to guess, i'd say that's why he used one. in what universe does pastrana's use of a 125 relate to someone using a 4 stroke? I think that would be a nice leap forward for the 4 strokes. FMX is gay. stop worrying about the world approving of what you ride. just ride. jeremiah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beer_studd_76 Â Â Posted December 9, 2004 You'll see a few more, but there are still areas where 2-strokes are better. FMX Hare Scrambles Trials. SX, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites