I am not sure why the 450 places so badly in the shootouts. Is it that far behind the rest of the models. The 250f is still placing high in the shootouts and the 450 is its brother. Does the extra amount of weight make that big of a difference in handling, because thats where it seems to do the worse. I just dont understand how a rider can go from saying that the 250f is number 1-2 in the class to saying the 450 is almost last. Or is it that the competition in the 450 class is much more advance than in the 250f class? Would an aluminum frame for the Suzuki and the introduction of the KTM put the Yamaha 250F back in the pack also?