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Opinion Needed . 05 CRF250r or 05 CR125R

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I know most are partial to the CRF and i cant blame you (bike of the year 2 years running and all)..but.... I am a beginner (over 30 rider) . I do not race . I just ride with my son on a local track for fun up to 2 times a week. I am concerned with the problems i am hearing with 4 strokes as well as the maintenance costs. If i am not a racer but love to ride alot, Should i save money and go with the Cr125 or spend the extra on the CRF. I can see the benefits of the CRF for racing but is it worth the extra expense and maintenance costs just for the recreational rider? Many thanks for your opinions

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I got slammed on a previous post because I mentioned some negative comments about the 4-strokes.

http://www.thumpertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=227211

But in your case, I would recommend that a 4-stroke like the CRf250R is a good buy. Since you willl be riding trails, lugging around on a 4stroke is better than a 2-stroke. You don't have to worry about the clutch too much and more on riding.

I'd say ....go for the CRF250R.

Don't worry about the reliability. I had an 02 CRF450R and had more than 150 hours before having to replace my intake valves. Once I installed the aftermarket valves, I never had to adjust the valves again until I sold it 6 months ago.....

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I honestly think that if your going to get a 2 smoke dont go with a 125, IMO they are harder to ride. *IF* you do go with a 2 stroke I would look into something like a KTM 200 or the newer CR250 they are supposed to be torquey. Peronally I loved the YZ 250 with a FMF Gnarly pipe and flywheel weights. :)

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*IF* you do go with a 2 stroke I would look into something like a newer CR250 they are supposed to be torquey.

I would suggest an older CR250 if your going that route. Ever since Honda introduced the case-reed design they're 250 has gone to shit. It suffers greatly from the Waah-Wahh-Wahh Syndrome. Of course, it can be fixed to Waah-Waah with a VForce3 Reed Valve. I havn't figured out how to get rid of the third Waah though...:)

Doug

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I would suggest an older CR250 if your going that route. Ever since Honda introduced the case-reed design they're 250 has gone to shit. It suffers greatly from the Waah-Wahh-Wahh Syndrome. Of course, it can be fixed to Waah-Waah with a VForce3 Reed Valve. I havn't figured out how to get rid of the third Waah though...:)

Doug

I said newer because apparently on the new 05's which are a extremely late release they apparently went away from the electronic operated valve and went back to mechanical which was supposed to of cured the waah-waah-waah syndrome. I havent ridden one yet so dont know if it did fix it for sure.

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Basically you ride close to the way I do. I have a CRF250R and love it. You can't go wrong with the way you ride it is good for all the types of riding you do and you won't have a problem riding where ever you want.

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A couple of points:

1) Don't discount a 250 2stroke. Maintenance costs will be lower and they last forever, especially if you're just tooling around the track. Even though ONLY4STROKES has an issue with the new CR's, Mike LaRocco doesn't seem to be having any problems with his?

2) Again, with your style of riding, I think a 4stroke would suit you very well. It's much easier to lug a 4stroke around.

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) Don't discount a 250 2stroke. Maintenance costs will be lower and they last forever, especially if you're just tooling around the track. Even though ONLY4STROKES has an issue with the new CR's, Mike LaRocco doesn't seem to be having any problems with his?

Didn't you know??????? Only4strokes is a genius!!!

My buddy has an 02 and it seems to run great, he races moto with it. Just cause the mags bash them doesn't mean they're crap. My other friend has the slowest 125 made, the CR. His is an 04 and runs top 5 in the vet expert class against 250's and 450's, and it's only got a pipe and silencer.

If it was me I would opt for the case reed CR's just because of the ease of top end rebuilds. You don't even have to remove the head or carb to do it.

Then again I would recommend the CRF250. :)

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I've had both. For me the 2-stroke is a better option but the CRF250 is a sweet all around bike. Plenty of power for anything and handles awesome. The CR 2-strokes are good too but don't have alot of power. I'd say if your considering a 125 then look at the 250. It's tame and is much easier to ride than a 125. Don't get me wrong, once you learn how to ride a 125 correctly they are awesome but there is a learning curve with the clutching. If I were you though I would get the CRF250. Maintenance is the only drawback.

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Like a few had said the 125 is not for beginers.I know it has less power but you have to be on the throttle all the time you cant lug it .The best bike for older beginer riders is a 250 4 stroke.I have 14 months and close to or over 100 hrs with no problems.But if you have a problem and you dont know how to work on it yourself it will be a pain.If you cant work on it and you dont have the money to pay someone get the 250 2 stroke.

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I never rode 250 2strokes. Just taken a joy ride on one. I have oned a YZ and CR 125 and had to clutch like crazy. It was fun though. Sometimes I miss that. Even though I was just making noise half the time instead of getting to where I want like I do on the CRF. But tell me, since I skipped the 250 2stroke. Are they as fun as a 250F. Are they a ton crazier than the tame baby thumper. I won't lie, sometimes I think I should own one. To me they are the epitome of a dirtbike. Please don't bash me for being honest with all of you. I feel myself walking the thin line. :)

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After riding 4-strokes for 3 years when I first got my 05 250 2-stroke I thought "Oh my what did I get?" "I could have bought a brand new 450!!" I was all over the place. Now I wouldnt trade it. The bike is very fast and very fun to ride but getting used to a 2-stroke period is alittle work. Your either all over the place or clutching like crazy. But they are more fun for me and I can go alot faster. For the power the new 125's have just as much and sometimes more peak hp than the 250f's. They just dont come on as early with the torque or as smooth so they require more work. Now the 450 is the real cheater bike. They are about 3+ hp more than a 250 and have alot more torque too. I couldnt ride my friends 05.

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