13 vs. 14 tooth counter shaft sprocket?

Guys,

A friend suggested that I go to 13 tooth counter shaft sprocket on my 300R. I have two questions: What will I gain? And how much of a pain in the butt is it to do? Thanks

not that much of a pain we did this on my cousins honda 250 you take off the plate where the counter sprocket is. Then take and loosen the wheel so you will have slack on the chain then take off the counter sprocket and put the new one on and then put everything back to the way it was. Or you can take the master link off of the chain and remove it and then take the plate off and then the counter sprocket. Which ever you decide. you will get more power under your @$$ is what you get lol you will really notice a difference in power after you get it.

You will gain a snappier throttle response. Quicker acceleration. The ability to loft the front end easier in higher gearing. And a lower 1st gear for creeping through rocks and highly technical sections of trail.

You will loose top speed. If you ride a lot of highway or if you find yourself tapped out in 6th for a substantial part of your rides, you may not like the 13T. Otherwise, IMO it's a no brainer. Cheap. Do it!

The install is easy. Loosen the rear axle, push the rear wheel as far forward as it goes, derail the chain, pull off the CS cover, pop off the circlip and swap em out. It's a 15 minute job.

When you change to a 13 tooth front do you need to change the rear sprocket as well?

You may need to change the rear sprocket and chain if they have a fair amount of wear. If they're in good nick, you don't have to worry about them.

I have 13/50 and find it a little annoying on the road.. but I only ride the road about 5% of the time. When I get off road and ride the trials it's fine.. When I ride slow technical stuff it's great... and for accelerating up mountains it's awesome.

You may need to change gears a little more often, but not much, being a four stroke.

if you're riding hilly terrain and you're not very experienced, or your bike is not modified with a pumper carb or 330 kit, the 13t is pretty handy. i found i could climb more stuff cuz i could start using 2nd gear on steep hills and maintain more momentum, where with the 14t 1st gear was too low and 2nd was too high for the bike to pull.

since i put on a pumper carb and 330 kit, i went back to the 14, and then to a 15t since i'm riding faster and slightly more open terrain now.

mw

Where would you recommend to buy a 13T countershaft sprocket? I haven't bought any dirt bike parts in a while (long time not riding)

Where would you recommend to buy a 13T countershaft sprocket? I haven't bought any dirt bike parts in a while (long time not riding)

Buy it at your local cycle shop. They should be less than $15. If you have a KLX300, be sure to get the sprocket for YOUR BIKES MODEL YEAR. I think it was in 2003 that they changed them.

Ride on

Brewster

Would I have to take a link out of the chain if I go to a 13T countershaft? I'm curious because I'd like the ability to go back and forth depending on where I'm going riding.

Would I have to take a link out of the chain if I go to a 13T countershaft? I'm curious because I'd like the ability to go back and forth depending on where I'm going riding.

Not if you have the stock length of chain.

Ride on

Brewster

Am I blind or is there no master link on my 2001 klx 300r? If not has anybody put one on?

tr

My bike didn't have one either. There is a handy little chain breaking tool that I used. I guess you could get it at most motercycle shops. It's a little hand held press that pushes a pin out of the chain to take it apart. You could get a master link and put it back together. I ended up buying a new chain and rear sprocket and changed everything when I switched to the 13t front sprocket.

Am I blind or is there no master link on my 2001 klx 300r? If not has anybody put one on?

tr

That puzzled me too a couple of years ago. You can either get a chain breaker and install a master link on you old chain or (better idea due to age of present chain) grind off the rivets on one of the links and get a new chain and sprockets. Another possibility is to remove all of your rear linkage and swingarm to remove the chain. GOOD TIME to grease ALL of the linkage bushings and bearings.

Ride on

Brewster

What confused me was the owners manual shows a photo with a master link :) Anyway, the 13 tooth is installed :D , next is the uni air filter, dynojet kit, and header.

Brewster, I bought my 2001 brand new from a dealer about 4 months ago. I got a very good price. Thanks for the advice anyway, I'll need more of it in the future.

tr

I changed mine without breaking the chain apart or loosening the wheel (actually I didn't technically change it, I took it off to do the shift star fix and re-installed it). Just take off the circlip and pull the sprocket and chain toward you a bit until it clears the shaft, then slide the sprocket rearward out of the chain. Reverse for install.

And no, my chain isn't too loose. It's new and in spec.

You're right, you don't need to take the chain off - just derail it - to change out the countershaft sproket. Do it often this way.

Beware that the "just remove the circlip and derail" method may not work on 2003 and later bikes. In 2003, kawi changed the output shaft to the same spline pattern as a yz/kx 250. The newer output shaft is larger in diameter and has a fine spline pattern. Interesting that kawi didn't tell anyone about this change... So, I discovered this after returning a few sprockets that didn't fit my bike. This output shaft has a large thread-on retainer nut (usually torqued on by a gorilla) with a safety washer, and you might need an impact gun to loosen this retaining nut. Then, you may discover that the new output shaft is too long to get the sprocket off it with a slackened chain. When you re=tighten the sprocket retaining nut, it is not necessary to torque it back on to "gorilla" specs - the safety washer is supposed to be there to keep the nut in place. Then, in the future you can loosen the nut by holding the rr brake and using an extension handle on your ratchet. So... To all owners of 2003 and later klx 300's who want to do the countershaft sprocket change, please take note....

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