I've seen a LOT of lame posts and opinions bithchin' about the ATV folks. Do we EVER stop to consider some of THE MORONS on dirt-bikes that screw things for all of us? Riding where they shouldn't. Runnin' that YZ-F with the Way Too Loud race pipe out in the Forrest! Here's a brutal fact: At last count, ATVs out-sold dirt-bikes by a 4:1 margin. Those in the industry that follow such facts are advising that the #s will probably reflect 6:1 at next count. Don't you think we should be gettin' "Allied" with all these "New" off-road folk and start using these #s to our advantage...like say... ON LAND-USE ISSUES! Or should we just sit around and continue our Lame-A$$ bithchin'? Make friends...make a difference. Get these folks to join the AMA, Blue-Ribbon Coalition, CORVA....help them, show them how to be "Responsible". Get it? Manny BTW, thanks to ATVs...my Dad became an "Off-Roader" at age 61!