Sorry, cannot agree with your logic. My experience on the West Coast confirms that the Sierra Club will NOT make any concessions from their agenda. Certainly I wish you well, but you will be a mouse playing with the cat! I would encourage all off roaders to become active in attempting to maintain what areas/trails we presently are fortunate enough to have remaining. We need to wake up before we can only watch videos of what we used to love to do. If you, collectively, are waiting for someone else to speak for you, you better wake up and take an active role NOW!! Mike, my hat is off to you for meeting with them, but I wouldn't believe a word they say!