Thanks for all your advice on why my wr wouldn't start or go. next time i request help, please remember to ask me has it got fuel, and has it got water in the fuel. Don't forget the real simple stuff. After two weeks of kicking, kicking, photo of hole in blundstone boot from kicking. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/bluebike1999/boot_0948.jpg swearing, puffing, thinking about electric starters, forced to ride sons pw80, I found that there was bloody water in my fuel. I already bought another plug, drained carby several times and never noticed water, probably wasn't looking. Then i bought an iridium plug and the bike started 2nd kick, but ran all farty and popping. Then i needed chainsaw fuel and have been mixing up just 700ml at a time in an old rum bottle and when i drained some in out of my bike fuel tank, there it was, bloody water. Took tank off and blew it out then dried it with a cloth, drained carb, refueled, about four kicks later it started and ran a bit fluffy for about 30 sec and cleared. now runs absolutely sweet. was getting worried because i only had yz timing done about 100km ago and had never done any other real mods to it, and was starting to think i should have left it alone. got another pw80 for youngest son 4y/o. he has had a few rides and can't wait to hit the beach. had to change avatar thanks all for your help again.