Long time lurker/first time poster says "Whats up" to the way-cool WR forum!!! Anyway...just had to come off the sideline after seeing this...Doug Dubach's starting tips for 4-stroke Yam's. I don't know about you guys, but the 10% or so of the time my baby doesn't fire up first kick...its nothing short of black magic to get the fire going. It seems like I've read about a hundred "sure-fire" methods to lighting thumpers and they're all different. Whatever...I think (at least today) that I've got a routine down pat now that seems to work most every time. I thought maybe I'd volunteer myself first in the hopes that maybe we can all learn something or pick up some tricks. Possible starting conditions: 1. Full cold or 1st start of day 2. Same as #1, got it fired, but killed it before it warmed up by opening throttle too soon. 3. Hot or after going down 4. on and on and on... (Seems to me #2 is the one that still gets me) Anyhow, what works for me is: 1. Gas on (1a do not touch throttle) 2. Choke out (2a do not touch throttle) 3. Compression in and kickover slow 4 times (3a do not touch throttle) 4. Top out against "hard spot" of 5th kick (4a do not touch throttle) 5. Baby-bleed compression to percieved TDC (5a do not touch throttle) 6. Top kickstarter back out to highest spot (6a do not touch throttle) 7. One kick baby....yeah... (7a do not touch throttle until its warmed up) 8. Touch throttle...NICE!!! Anyway, thats my idea, would love to hear what you do...ohh yea...DUH...guess I should paste Dubach's method here: <the following copied from http://www.yamaha-motor.com/new/four_stroke2.html as described by Doug Dubach> COLD ENGINE STARTING: 1. Make sure the bike has fuel, then turn on fuel petcock. 2. Pull out choke knob (black knob on left side of the carburetor). 3. Prime the engine by giving the throttle two full turns (only if the bike has not been started in a day or two). 4. Apply firm pressure to the kick-starter with your foot until you hit distinct resistance (this is the compression stroke/hard spot). 5. While keeping pressure on the kick-starter, pull in the compression release lever and push the kick-starter past the compression stroke/hard spot. The kick-starter needs to only move about 1 to 2 inches past the hard spot. That is all! 6. Release the compression release lever and return the kick-starter to the top 7. Now, kick to start. Do not touch the throttle, as the engine will start and idle on it's own 8. If the bike does not start, repeat steps 4 through 7 only until the engine starts. <the precieding copied from http://www.yamaha-motor.com/new/four_stroke2.html as described by Doug Dubach> Anyone, chime in at will and don't leave the newbie hangin'...THANKS!! late...Gary ------------------ '99 WR400 with CA plates...ooooh yeah!!!