Riding Supplements?

How many of you use supplements when you ride or race? I use CardioStack and PumpX. I'm not sure what else is available out there?

What about energy drinks like Monster or Red Bull?

My opinion...

Supplements for performance = Hype.... (not all but most)

Monster and RedBull = Pure poison

My opinion. Adding more junk and toxicity to your body to try to get better performance is like pi**ing into the wind. It doesn't work, It's an illusion.

Real energy and stamina comes from real health. In my experience, the best riding day performance comes from living a healthy lifestyle in general.

Then specifically on riding day....

- Drink a about 100oz of clear water per day 2 days prior riding day

- no dairy, candy, white flours, processed foods or other poisons like caffeine

- lot's of easily digested foods that provide what you need, vegetables, fruits, whole grains, nuts, raw oils, etc.

- drink tons of clear water on riding day and maybe some diluted sports drinks as well

Almost every riding day, the guys sitting stuffing down crap like power bars and sports drinks look over at me eating a cucumber, a banana, raw cashews and clear water and ask me how I stay on the track so long. They don't get it. :banghead:

You're body creates so much toxicity and lactic acid when you ride. That's mostly where fatigue and arm pump come from. You have to do all that you can to keep your body as clean and alkaline as possible on riding day.

Good luck and ride safe.

Ian

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I have always ridden with a camelback loaded with poweraid but still got exhausted running harescrambles. I just did try out some amino acid pills this past weekend. Talk about pumped up for the ride, huge difference.

http://www.ajinomoto.com/amino/eng/sports.html

My opinion...

Supplements for performance = Hype.... (not all but most)

Monster and RedBull = Pure poison

My opinion. Adding more junk and toxicity to your body to try to get better performance is like pi**ing into the wind. It doesn't work, It's an illusion.

Real energy and stamina comes from real health. In my experience, the best riding day performance comes from living a healthy lifestyle in general.

Then specifically on riding day....

- Drink a about 100oz of clear water per day 2 days prior riding day

- no dairy, candy, white flours, processed foods or other poisons like caffeine

- lot's of easily digested foods that provide what you need, vegetables, fruits, whole grains, nuts, raw oils, etc.

- drink tons of clear water on riding day and maybe some diluted sports drinks as well

Almost every riding day, the guys sitting stuffing down crap like power bars and sports drinks look over at me eating a cucumber, a banana, raw cashews and clear water and ask me how I stay on the track so long. They don't get it. :banghead:

You're body creates so much toxicity and lactic acid when you ride. That's mostly where fatigue and arm pump come from. You have to do all that you can to keep your body as clean and alkaline as possible on riding day.

Good luck and ride safe.

Ian

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That's the most truthful post ever! :banghead:

Take your vitamins and keep a good cardio routine, you dont need any high dollar supplements. (Take it from a guy who has tried them all) Oh yeah for red bull and energy drinks your gonna spike then fall on your face half way through the race.

In my experience, the best riding day performance comes from living a healthy lifestyle in general.
While I agree that no supplement (including vitamins) can make up for a poor diet, there are a number of them that can improve performance beyond what you can get from just eating healthy. Among these are a few of the ingredients contained in Red Bull and Monster Energy: caffeine, taurine, glucuronolactone, and glucose (sugar). Caffeine and glucose have long been known to enhance endurance performance. Taurine and glucuronolactone, however, are lesser known.

Glucuronolactone has been shown to improve mental performance, reaction time, concentration and memory while taurine significantly increases exercise time to exhaustion, VO2max, and maximal workload. It also exhibits a protective effect against cellular stress-induced oxidation and behaves as a free radical scavenger in various cells and tissues.

I don't particularly care for these drinks myself (bad taste and too little caffeine) but to deny their effectiveness or to refer to them and caffeine as "poison" or "toxic" is naive. Caffeine intake up to 400 mg per day (five times what is in one can of Red Bull) has never been shown to have any adverse effects including general toxicity.

Well I agree that you need to eat right and have all the good things in you that your body needs to perform as well as recover. That's a given.

With that, I do think that complex B supplements are vital when you work your body more than normal.

For serious abuse, I will sometimes load up on sodium phosphate, an old trick that many endurance athletes use. You'll notice a difference with this stuff.

DaveJ

All riders over 30 should visit this website and order Nutriex Sport. It has all the necessary vitamins etc. as well as the cartlage support things for joints in various stages of repair or post traumatic degeneration. Ive been on it for three years.

www.nutriex.com

Old school marathon runners just drink coke and mountain dew. It has all the sugar and caffine you need to keep going during an enduarance event. Don't drink it any other time though.

thanks for the website drmark

Old school marathon runners just drink coke and mountain dew. It has all the sugar and caffine you need to keep going during an enduarance event. Don't drink it any other time though.
Soft drinks also have a pH of about 2.5 which is highly acidic (muscle pH is normally about 7.0). Combine this with the naturally occuring metabolic acidosis from lactic acid and you have a recipe for premature fatigue. It's like throwing gasoline on a fire.

Stay away from creatine because it causes arm pump really fast. Glutamine is really helpful for a quick recovery and isn't too expensive at the GNC.

I don't pretend to understand all the chemistry, but I've spent several years experimenting with what foods give me the best energy and focus during an enduro. I know it sounds crazy, but nothing keeps me going like a a few caffenated soft drinks during an event. I normally have one at the start, at the gas stop, and maybe at a reset. I usually eat a few gu's also. I always get stronger and faster as the race go's on, and I almost never bonk.

Also, from reading Runners World magazine, I know that allot of marathoners do the same thing.

In the years I've been doing this I have found that a good cardio workout 2to3 times a week and some weight lifting to be the best for ME. I do take a multi vitamin pack every day with some cartilage tabs my wife buys me because she say I'm already old and beat up (at 35 yeah right!)

Before a ride I drink 1 12oz. can of V8 juice it has I think as much potassium as 3 bananas, (it's real tasty and easier for me to drink than choke down a banana) sodium to help help your muscles hang on to some water, I'm no specialist its just what I've heard and it helps me. I don't drink Monster or any thing like that before I ride or race, it makes me to hyper and it feels like I blow my whole wad in the first 25 mi.

Try the V8 and exercise as much as you want or feel like doing, every little bit helps and after a month of it you WILL feel the difference.

My opinion...

Supplements for performance = Hype.... (not all but most)

Monster and RedBull = Pure poison

My opinion. Adding more junk and toxicity to your body to try to get better performance is like pi**ing into the wind. It doesn't work, It's an illusion.

Real energy and stamina comes from real health. In my experience, the best riding day performance comes from living a healthy lifestyle in general.

Then specifically on riding day....

- Drink a about 100oz of clear water per day 2 days prior riding day

- no dairy, candy, white flours, processed foods or other poisons like caffeine

- lot's of easily digested foods that provide what you need, vegetables, fruits, whole grains, nuts, raw oils, etc.

- drink tons of clear water on riding day and maybe some diluted sports drinks as well

Almost every riding day, the guys sitting stuffing down crap like power bars and sports drinks look over at me eating a cucumber, a banana, raw cashews and clear water and ask me how I stay on the track so long. They don't get it. :applause:

You're body creates so much toxicity and lactic acid when you ride. That's mostly where fatigue and arm pump come from. You have to do all that you can to keep your body as clean and alkaline as possible on riding day.

Good luck and ride safe.

Ian

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I'm going to edit this and say that "most" of them out there are worthless, but there are some new ones coming out that are going to rock the boat. I just did a test on DMG, an ingredient in one of the moto supplements, and it actually hindered performance. But, there are things are there that do help a body perform better (you even mention alkalinity). Alas, there will be a time that, along with true physical conditioning, supplementation will aid moto. Just look at what it's done for some other sports...they just happen to be much larger markets so they get all the attention. :bonk:

Man, I had a Rockstar two years ago before a wrestling match and I felt so sick, I vomitted like three times after my match, since then I have never drank any of that carbonated enery drinks, it's BS.

Some pancakes with syrup on race day, some gatorade or powerade, water, apple, bananas, grapes, etc...

Couple days before the race pasta and stuff like that, and that's when I feel best :-D

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