I know.....don't blast me, the CR85 is a 2 stroke not a thumper but I thought this would be the best place to ask this question: My 12 yr-old son has one year under his belt with a 2002 CFR80(bone stock), he does quite well. The only type of riding we do is trail riding, one of the trails is 24 miles of tight technical trees, mud, and sand. The other trail is 20+ miles of rolling groomed (wide as a car) trail that is fast but not technical at all. He feels that he wants something "bigger, faster, better suspension". I am Honda through and through. He has a good friend who races a 2004 YZ85, and has gone trail riding with us. Of course my son envies his friend on the YZ when he can keep up with me on my 250x. Being in good standing with my Honda dealer, they have a used 2003 CR85(stock) trade-in that they let me bring home for the weekend for my son to tryout. He says he loves it, what kid wouldn't, the thing screams. The concerns that I have is ...is it too much bike for him and is it the wrong bike for the riding that we do. He doesn't like the CRF100 because if the weight and lack of suspension. What's a Dad to do? We really only have access to Reb, Blue, Yellow, and Green machines. My son is 5'0" 92lbs. Your opinions are welcomed!