I agree...and glad someone is admitting the CRF is a very good bike just needs the valves replaced and a cuppla other things. Honda does deserve a little credit. Not much of a cruiser type here but certainly did not enjoy riding the VTX 1800, very disappointed. Motor pulled very strong and then just signed off w/no warning. Suspension was the worst part. You have some exotic tastes in cruisers. I refused to trade in my 929 too, was too good a bike, couldn't kill it and nothing that came out was significantly better. Had good offers to trade up but no reason to..the 929 was a great bike, stayed competitive, was bulletproof ( to Honda's credit) and nothing new was really better. It's intersting listening to you guys talk about their road models. I know nothng about where Honda sits in road bikes. Are you guys saying that Honda dropped the ball there too? Are there any examples?